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#16
They probably are ex-Santa Fe, but notice VAIX 2001 doesn't have the little cupola-type extensions on the roof, while the Santa Fe car in your link and VAIX 2003 and 2005 have them. My biggest problem with trying to build one of these would be that if the'y're 89 feet overall, that's a little longer than a 1-foot long sheet of styrene, which would mean doing a splice and then doing a real, real good job of smoothing the joint. I think I'm going to stick with the TBCX 767 car for a project -- easy to cut from a single sheet of styrene, and real, real, real cheap!
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#17
Ok, after taking another close look at the photos i it seems you're right. An yes, that's a little longer than the normal sheet of styrene. So get started for the first one, and mybe some times later you'll find a bigger sheet of styrene and you will be able to build one of the longer cars ..... Wink
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#18
Look in the Yellow Pages under "Plastic suppliers". You should be able to get 4'x8' sheets of styrene in various thicknesses and at a reasonable cost, too. I've gone through four or five sheets of .060", and at least one sheet of .040", although I use it mainly for structures.

Wayne
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#19
Hello jwb, when I browsed through my collected photos i ran across this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/true2death/...otostream/ This is the onbe form you 3rd drawing, isn't it?
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#20
It might well be. Do you have a number for the car?
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#21
One of my tasks for today was to check the ATSF entry in a 1980s ORER I have. ATSF 90424-90429 are listed as 89 foot well cars (GWSR) for airplane parts, but they're listed as several different line items, which suggests what the photos also say, there are small differences among them. 90406 and 90407 are FMS cars for airplane parts only 50 feet 2 inches long, while 90432-90437 are FMS flat cars for airplane parts 53 feet 6 inches long. If anyone knows anything more. . .

A good shot of 90424 showing the ATSF lettering clearly is at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=894740">http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=894740</a><!-- m --> comments on that site say they were, at least at the time, for the C-5 program. Does anyone know if that program is still going?
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#22
According to the photographer it's the car, that you sketched: BN 610382.

Regards,
Frank
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#23
The BN listings in the ORER are much less informative than those from other roads. It lists 4 flats in series 610376-610385 as just flats about 61 feet long, but no dimensions that would indicate the hood fitting. Could well be one of a kind.
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#24
Hm, the only one looking similar which I can find flipping through my records, is these one:
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetail...toID=46628
a liitle bit out of your number-range, so maybe you're right.
But there are also these nearly similar ones:
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetail...otoID=3080
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPic...?id=413561
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPic...id=3006492
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPic...id=1655414
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPic...id=1753551
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPic...id=2956519

Regards,
Frank
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#25
My ORER from the early 1980s doesn't have a listing for BN 610402, but there are flats on either side with a length of 61 feet 6 inches. I've thought now and then about using an Athearn ex-Roundlhouse 60-foot flat for this, which would simplify the work some, although the well is a major change, too.

The other TBCX cars are per my drawing, except that now see that the roof on those cars has a flat slope, as opposed to the gambrel roofs on BN and SP cars, so modify my drawing accordingly. Thanks for helping me to catch this before I started my model!

Do you plan to build any of these? The Athearn BN flat is still around.
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#26
I agree that the Athearn ex-Roundlhouse 60-foot flat would be a good starting point for this project.
And you're welcoma as I'm always willing to help, since I've learned such a lot from this forum only by reading ... Big Grin
Yes, I would like to build an "Boeing-Train", but at the moment I'm thinking about wheere to start and I'm looking for some flats with 60' and 89' for a reasonable price at ebay as a staring point. And then I've to search for a model from which I can make the fuselage .... So something more to do ... Big Grin

And how about you, has your project already started?

Regards,
Frank
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#27
Only as far as realizing I need to update my drawing. . .
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#28
Ok, that's more than I have at the moment ... :oops:
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#29
Hallo jwb,

I've just found some other hints, they may be usefull ressources, if you get them:
1) Mainline Modeler, issue 4/91: which has an prototype article with drawings
2) Mainline Modeler, issue 8/92: a modeling article of Maxon built Boeing 747 cars that have hoods,
3) Freight Cars Journal #68 from 1995 - Aircraft Parts Cars - A look at the Boeing fleet: Wichita-Seattle pool equipment, which has pictures and a roster which includes BN, ATSF and TBCX (Boeing) cars.
Again for me: no access ... Wallbang

And some more pictures of Aircraft flat cars:
- Boeing: http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/boe/tbcxacflat.htm
- BN: http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/bn/bnacflat.htm
- ATSF: http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/atsf/atsfacflat.htm
- GN: http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/gn/gnacflat.htm
- CN: http://www.trainweb.org/nwrp/cn/cnacflat.htm

Hope, that helps.

Regrds,
Frank
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#30
Thanks, that's very interesting -- most of these cars have the simple 3-piece roof, as opposed to the 5-piece gambrel roof on the later SP and BN cars. The Santa Fe cars show photos of the shorter cars I listed in the Santa Fe ORER entry above -- they carry breaker bars (or whatever you call them) for the 737 fuselages.
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