Westbrook

[alcanman]

I guess this pic gives the layout a more New England look.

The right hand end of the layout will include a lot of trees and I may use fall foliage colors like I used on my CSX Transflo, NY layout. That layout was intended to be located in New England but I didn't have any suitable power so I settled for CSX in upstate New York, an area I had also visited in 1994.

Now I have some suitable New England power

   

Mal

[torikoos]

excellent. Change the locale, so you get to buy another locomotive :-)

Looking good Mal :-)

Koos

[alcanman]

Thanks Koos.

The GP40 has a Soundtraxx decoder fitted too!

The high nose GP40s (ex NW) are my favourite locos still operating with Pam Am/Guilford. Here's a pic of #378 leading a typical Pan AM lash-up

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Mal

[torikoos]

That's a great photo of the original :-)

Love the autumn colours behind the loco too, nice contrast!

Soundtraxx decoder, very good sounding turbocharged engine sound on those. Forgot to ask, is it an Athearn or Atlas model?

Koos

[alcanman]

That's a great photo of the original :-)

Love the autumn colours behind the loco too, nice contrast!

Soundtraxx decoder, very good sounding turbocharged engine sound on those. Forgot to ask, is it an Athearn or Atlas model?

Koos

Atlas model - very smooth motor control and sounds great.

Here's a more recent pic of #378 now painted in latest Pan Am dark blue. I prefer the Guilford paint scheme.

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Mal

[torikoos]

I have to agree, Guildford looks nicer. I wonder however if Panam is going back in the airline business at some point. It is clearly the same company looking at the logo, but I don't think there has been a flying Panam plane for a few decades ...

[jwb]

I guess this pic gives the layout a more New England look.

The right hand end of the layout will include a lot of trees and I may use fall foliage colors like I used on my CSX Transflo, NY layout. That layout was intended to be located in New England but I didn't have any suitable power so I settled for CSX in upstate New York, an area I had also visited in 1994.

Now I have some suitable New England power

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Mal

But by that reasoning, a BNSF run-through in West Virginia makes it California. And as you put it, if you just have some trees, it can be a lot of places. Why should I think your layout is New England? Why not work on industries more typical of the area, or place name, or architecture?

[Brakie]

Why not work on industries more typical of the area, or place name, or architecture?
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And what's wrong with general industries that can be found in the New England States? It isn't about seafood and boats which is usually trucked today anyway.

If by architecture meaning old brick factories that became to costly to maintain and heat? Old wood buildings that was high maintenance and insurance cost?

Industries today can be found in concrete box buildings that populates industrial parks from Maine to California and from Florida to Michigan.

[jwb]

But then, why claim it's New England? I'm not recommending fishing, but the fact is that there aren't that many "generalized" industries in New England, especially those that still use rail service. (Actually, there's less and less boxcar freight of any sort.) In other words, if you say it's New England, there ought to be a reason. Otherwise, call it "Springfield" and have your generic warehouses all you want. Why not spend a little time with Google to find out what industries use rail service in the region? What do those generic "warehouses" on the plan receive, anyhow?

I will say that the layout that's inspired me most lately is the 4 x 6 in the February 2014 RMC, which clearly shows industries peculiar to CSX in the Clinchfield area, and not just coal mine clichés, either. It seems to me that part of the fun in the hobby is doing this kind of studying to make a layout unique. On the other hand, if you don't want a unique layout, why suggest it is?

[Sumpter250]

If you want "New England" just add one of these to the scene.
   
   
Nothin' says "New England" better than the presence of a Lobster man.

[jwb]

Actually, let's think about New England in the Guilford period, 1985-2005 or so. You don't need to go anywhere near water. The main Guilford route was well inland, and the Massachusetts coastal branches went to the MBTA. Guilford was essentially an extension by merger of the Maine Central, however you slice it, and its main traffic was in and out of Maine -- the B&M and D&H were just bridge carriers to the MEC, which was the strongest carrier. The traffic was basically outbound paper products, inbound raw materials for paper like kaolin and marble slurry, and locally pulpwood. There was inbound poultry and dairy cattle feed, inbound flour and corn syrup for some food producers, and inbound petroleum products. Not much of this involved generic warehouses, and a feed mill or distributor really doesn't look like an aggregate transfer facility. If it were me, though that's just me, I'd want to eliminate anything that made my layout look like every other shunty-plank, while at the same time suggesting the actul industries you find in New England, as well as portraying something of the area. If you visited the place and remember it happily, why not stress what makes it unique?

[Brakie]

I'm not recommending fishing, but the fact is that there aren't that many "generalized" industries in New England, especially those that still use rail service. (Actually, there's less and less boxcar freight of any sort.) In other words, if you say it's New England, there ought to be a reason
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Actually Guliford handles a lot of boxcars according to the research I did for my Summerset Ry waybills plus there is several excellent Guliford videos on you tube show trains with lots of boxcars.Also on line research showed hundreds of industrial parks in the New England States.
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Why not spend a little time with Google to find out what industries use rail service in the region? What do those generic "warehouses" on the plan receive, anyhow?
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Do you know how hard that is? I been there and done that..Its far better to use Google maps and look up rail served industrials on the line you plan to model or freelance.

Is this a warehouse or manufacturer? The sign is located on the "front side" of the building..Something most railroaders never see.

[jwb]

Guilford handles outbound loads of paper in boxcars, certainly, that's what I said. However, there is very little other boxcar traffic, and the paper traffic is steadily declining. Again, if you want something "generic", do "generic", but then don't say it's any particular place, and certainly don't claim you're doing anything unique.

[Brakie]

if you want something "generic", do "generic", but then don't say it's any particular place, and certainly don't claim you're doing anything unique.
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Well,how about Slate Creek Industrial park or Lake View Industrial Park? Where's Central Ohio Industrial park?

Generic means very little on a ISL since your modeling a industrial area not the city or town its in and industrial park namess may be generic as well such as Upper Valley Industrial park,Overbrook,Alantic, or my favorite 5 Points Industrial Park..The list is endless and has one thing in common..Their names doesn't give a hint of its true location..

[jwb]

Brakie, here's another problem: this is what all these industrial parks look like now: nothing on the tracks, and an "available" sign on the buildings. They were busy in the 1950s and 60s, not now. And a typical manifest has 10% boxcars if you're lucky.