The Hobo Camp Fire Is going well #IX.. Stop In!!!
(01-21-2021, 05:14 AM)ezdays Wrote: Good morning everyone, woke up very early, laid there for a hour and finally got up before 3:00. It should have rained last night, didn't. Some rain in the forecast every day clear into next week. We'll see...

Did go to Hobby Depot with Woodone, he got what he wanted, all I got was a few scraps of plastic and lots of disappointment. N scale was just track, no kits, very little scenery and even less scratchbuiding material. Their website looks like they're well stocked, they even advertise in Model Railroader, but the whole place looked like it hadn't been restocked in a very long time. Stopped by the pawn shop, at least I can get some ammo. Nope, another disappointment, no 9MM, he dug into some containers and found a few boxes of .22LR, "I can sell you one"...... One box of 50 rounds of .22 wasn't worth the effort you have to go through there to purchase it, so we left. My son, "Duffy" said he went to order some 9MM on line, it was in stock, but by the time he registered, it was gone. Got some up in Prescott, only $90 a box plus a two-hour ride to get there. No wonder I couldn't sleep this morning. Waiting

Well, like they say, when things are at the bottom, there's only one direction they can go...

Wow, never heard of Hobby Depot.  I was reminded the other day about the train stores near me from the 1990s - all gone now.  There were three train-dedicated hobby shops within about 15 minutes of my house when I was in high school.  Then there was a general hobby shop that had a good train department 5 minutes away in the mall, and for a short while a Hobbytown USA within walking distance, and they actually had enough of a train selection to be worth the walk.  Then there was Affair With Trains at the old cramped location that had just about everything, and Roys Trainworld that was pretty well stocked.  Now I can think of only about 4 places in the whole metro area that sell trains, and we have more than most cities.  There is a newer train place out in Apache Junction that seems to be pretty good.  Lots of used stuff.  There still are the two Hobby Bench locations, and I guess the place you just went to.
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(01-21-2021, 12:06 PM)nachoman Wrote: Wow, never heard of Hobby Depot.  I was reminded the other day about the train stores near me from the 1990s - all gone now.  There were three train-dedicated hobby shops within about 15 minutes of my house when I was in high school.  Then there was a general hobby shop that had a good train department 5 minutes away in the mall, and for a short while a Hobbytown USA within walking distance, and they actually had enough of a train selection to be worth the walk.  Then there was Affair With Trains at the old cramped location that had just about everything, and Roys Trainworld that was pretty well stocked.  Now I can think of only about 4 places in the whole metro area that sell trains, and we have more than most cities.  There is a newer train place out in Apache Junction that seems to be pretty good.  Lots of used stuff.  There still are the two Hobby Bench locations, and I guess the place you just went to.

I saw their ad in Model Railroader Magazine, and so when Jerry said he was going there, and I saw photos on their website, we decided to go together. Obie's Trains in Apache Junction is the only shop in the area dedicated to model railroading. No R/C, no basket weaving. When Roy's closed in Mesa, I suspect all that stock went to Obie's since they opened shortly after Roy's closed. I wish they were closer, Hobby Depot is around 48 miles from my house, Obie's is close to 70. I do miss all those other shops, An Affair With Trains was so cramped full you had to go outside to breath. Even after they moved they still had a lot of trains. There was another one on Bell/I-17 that was open for a while, then Roy's in Mesa, all of them, just trains, nothing else. Did buying on the Internet cause all of them to go away, or is it the hobby that's declining..... or both????

Cannot support local businesses if they don't have what you need, so I'm ready to send an order to Walther's, either that, or drive to Obie's and hope they have what they show on their website. Let's see, drive 140 miles round trip and hope they have something you can use, or just order exactly what you want and have them drop it off at your front door.... tough choices.... Nope
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(01-21-2021, 01:28 PM)ezdays Wrote: Did buying on the Internet cause all of them to go away, or is it the hobby that's declining..... or both????

Cannot support local businesses if they don't have what you need, so I'm ready to send an order to Walther's, either that, or drive to Obie's and hope they have what they show on their website. Let's see, drive 140 miles round trip and hope they have something you can use, or just order exactly what you want and have them drop it off at your front door.... tough choices.... Nope

I think internet buying did some in.  But I don't think it is that simple.  Some had owners that wanted to retire.  I don't think they are very profitable businesses compared to others, and I think younger people have no interest in owning such a business because there are much better ways of earning more money.   I think people in general are busier, and would rather shop online and have it come to their door.  Younger people don't enjoy walking into a store as much.  Remember, just about all brick and mortar retail is dying with the exception of a few big boxes.  I think the heyday of this hobby was probably 1960s-1970s, but I don't think it is declining much right now.  I see plenty of online interest, and interest from some pretty young adults.  They are mostly on social media groups rather than discussion boards like this.
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(01-21-2021, 02:17 PM)nachoman Wrote: I think internet buying did some in.  But I don't think it is that simple.  Some had owners that wanted to retire.  I don't think they are very profitable businesses compared to others, and I think younger people have no interest in owning such a business because there are much better ways of earning more money.   I think people in general are busier, and would rather shop online and have it come to their door.  Younger people don't enjoy walking into a store as much.  Remember, just about all brick and mortar retail is dying with the exception of a few big boxes.  I think the heyday of this hobby was probably 1960s-1970s, but I don't think it is declining much right now.  I see plenty of online interest, and interest from some pretty young adults.  They are mostly on social media groups rather than discussion boards like this.

There are generations now that will never savor the thrill of browsing. Spending hours in a store just looking, smelling and touching things that you have no intention of buying, or possibly could afford. Ladies "shopping" for clothes or checking out cosmetics, men trying out sporting goods. I remember I was at a trap meet and picked up a shotgun with a price tag of almost $100,000. Couldn't afford it, wouldn't buy it if I could, but I had it in my hands, try that on the Internet. I can watch an engine going around on a track and pick one up and admire the details, when all I can see on the Internet are pictures of it. I drive though our small neighborhood and see UPS, FedEx, Prime and other delivery trucks, they all represent missed sales by local businesses and lost opportunities by buyers to shop the old fashion way. But I need parts, so I guess I join in and shop the new fashion way.
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There is an old joke about the farmer who won a million on the lottery. The newspaper asked him what he planned to do with it. "Well. I reckon I'll just keep farming until it's gone."
I fear the same may be true with hobby shops.

In the local 3-cities (regional municipalities?) area, there have been a small number of hobby shops with a substantial train area and they're all gone. (I can think of about 5 in the last 50 years.)
City of Toronto used to have 3 or 4 substantial train shops -- this was 60s and 70s. The only one left of them is George's and they moved out to the suburbs on the far side from us.
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Good morning all, managed to make up for just a bit of my lost sleep, but not a whole lot. It did rain a bit early yesterday and just about every forecaster says more on the way.

Talking about losing hobby shops, how about all the other brick & mortar stores, small mom & pop to giants like Montgomery Ward and Levitz Furniture are gone, Trying to find a Sears, Macy's or JC Penny is tough anymore, finding one that is fully stocked is even harder, all replaced by computers and delivery trucks. I remember a friend of mine had a business in a large shopping center, and around 2008 when the economy was in the dump, he and others begged the owners to ease up on the rent for a while. They did not, he had to move, other small stores just closed. Home Depot and Walmart are still there because they can adapt. I wonder if we could get either of them to get into the hobby business? Waiting Too slow paced for them to even think about it.

Going to place my Walther's order today before prices go up or they sell out of what I want. One thing that's fairly unique in our hobby is the "advance ordering". Manufactures know what will sell and how many to make. How they get by with doing that in a "must have now" society, is beyond my comprehension.
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Greetings, gang.

Clear and cold this morning headed for clear and not as cold. 8 now headed for 19 this afternoon.

All my plans came together yesterday afternoon. Son-in-law called and pickups and trailers are all set for the weekend. With a little luck we should be finished with my son's apartment by tomorrow afternoon. Most things are already boxed up/labeled. People will show up this evening to finish most of that. Tomorrow should just be a matter of loading. Also have a roll off set up so we can dispose of the junk. Gonna be a good/bad day.

As much as I appreciate on line shopping for some things that are not available here in town there are certain things that can't/shouldn't be bought on line. Clothes are a good example. Trying to find the right size can be hard. Furniture is another example. In fact my son had purchased a sofa and love seat on line. Looked great. It was the first thing into the roll off last week. Absolute torture to sit on.

I'll check in when I get back from my son's place, hopefully tomorrow evening or Sunday morning.

All stay safe.

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Morning. 44 and sun coming out. High 50's to 60 guessed.


Got to rush. Suddenly drawn into a mess in one of my adopted daughter's back yard. She has owned the house for over 2 years. Suddenly developer shows up and takes a chunk of her back your and install deep storm drain. She was gone. Neighbor stops them [he is an engineer]. Now Wake Co Environmental is coming with developer. Wrong!! I have to represent her as she is quarantined as her teenage daughter has COVID [acquired by going to a national cheering event undefined].

Have a good one.
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Good morning folks,

It is 39 in the Philadelphia suburbs. High is predicated to reach 43.

Finally got the last of the Christmas tree bins back into the attic. I still have the window candles and bows to pack. Someone nearby was burning some rancid smelling wood last evening. The smell crept into the house and set off my wife’s asthma. The rescue inhalers and breathing treatment worked and her breathing returned to normal.

She has spent the last couple of days trying to get information on the vaccine. Her school district registered but they are saying that they are scheduled to get the vaccine after February 13th. My daughter’s school district has said it will be available by the end of the month. Both districts are covered by the same County Department of Health, so someone is misinformed. My money is on my wife’s district. They had to close the middle school today to clean it again due to the number of student infections. The students were all in school on or about January 7th and the district just informed the staff yesterday after knowing about the positive results for over a week. The district says the infections are due to community spread but the one thing they all have in common is they were in school. Makes you wonder.

My son and I spent some time last evening brain storming track plans and building locations. He drew up a first draft track plan which is pretty good. It will need some tweaking. I still need to remove the stained sections of foam and think about expanding the width.

I hope everybody has a good day.
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