I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just about all out of patience with red type on a medium blue field. Actually, it's red type on any shade of blue field. :x

It's not READABLE! ... SEE ! That's a well-known fact, learned in freshman year "Intro to Graphics 101."

It's all about Contrast Ladies and Gentlemen, and Value. Under a "chroma light," a light source which reduces all colors to shades of black, white and gray, red and blue have very similar values. The two grays are almost indistinguishable, one from the other. Look at the color choices for the type in use on this Forum ... white (now there's some good contrast!,) yellow (almost as good,) green (decent contrast but used only for Moderator names in bold ... where IS that green as a color choice in the color palette?) and then there are the reds. Links to URL's, for some reason, always seem to show up in red. It drives me nuts! What appears to be ten point type in red on a blue field is nearly impossible to read ... blood shoots from my eyes due to the strain of trying to read that abomination! Where is OSHA when you really need them!

The only place I've seen where the reds really shine and come into their own is for links used in a "quote" ... red on white has decent contrast and when used with the blue on white of a quote indicates something different from the rest of the quote, it calls attention to itself. Red on blue is type trying to hide - it's like it's wearing camouflage.

I really do wish the green was part of the available palette for us to use with type here as we build our next post, but it's not, so ...

Let's all do each other's eyes a big favor, especially the eyes of some of us "senior" guys ...



LAY OFF THE RED TYPE!

Hi biL,

Couple of things you might not know about red type here at Big Blue:

1) There are in fact four "schemes" available to members; some have a white background. Red on white is not so hard to read. Individual members are free to change this preference under the User Control Panel.

2) Some, if not all, of the red text is automatically formatted. For example, links generally appear in red through no particular action of the poster. E.g. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.hotrak.ca">http://www.hotrak.ca</a><!-- m --> <-- this link now appears red and has been automatically parsed (added http:, etc) through no direct action by me.

Note that if you use Gauge Lite for example (black text on a light grey background), the red is not used for links rather it is underlined and your yellow text becomes unreadable for the same reason as red on blue.

In fact, this very issue was discussed by the staff at length, and lead to the additional schemes being introduced. If you feel we should pursue this further, we can do so, but please don't SHOUT.

Andrew

I know what you mean Bil, the red is a pain. You can try my method and take your mouse and highlight the paragraph and ill be seen better, I've been doing it for years reading though so I don't know how effective it would be to start out doing it

as Andrew said, posting a web link is automatic

I changed over to the SIlver format...much, much better, especially when I can only use one eye! It also makes Bold and Italics meaningful again.

I didn't have a problem with the blue, but didn't know it was so easy to change the color scheme via the control panel. I learnt sumthin' new!

http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 will take you to Forum Problems and Requests. We have already dealt with a number of color issues.
There is also a historical "footnote" connected with this. The-Gauge, started up in this white on blue format. The nickname "Big Blue" was derived from that original format, and when we moved to this new domain, we brought the old "Big Blue" back.
Nostalgia ?.....yes.
There are options, There are in fact four "schemes" available to members; some have a white background. Red on white is not so hard to read. Individual members are free to change this preference under the User Control Panel., that users who do not like the original format, can use.
The "Forum Problems and Requests" forum is the place to address these issues........it's where they are "looked for", and where they will be looked at...... and if possible, fixed.

There usta was a way to change print size, but me ain't found that yit. I'm tarred of cleaning nose prints offa my screen.

Lynn

O.K., O.K., let's not get our panties all in a bunch! I was just venting some frustration. I was unaware of the history, and only peripherally aware of the ability to change viewing colors. It's not really all that much of a big deal ("Big Deal" - the guy who used to draw those cool hot rod cartoons in the '60's in Hot Rod and Car Craft magazines ... but I digress --- it's the ADD!) as I can read the red on blue if I take off my glasses and get up closer to the screen ... I know how to cope, how to adapt.

[ ...but where is that green?]

I got into that rant because of something else I had just heard on the news on the radio and it set me off so I sat down here and vented that frustration, the frustration that I was already feeling because my eyes were already super-tired from staring through my Optivisor while I made very short strokes with a jewelers file, making the "plugs" in the end platforms of my CLC's disappear for about two and a half hours. The blood was already shooting from my myopic peepers!

So every body chill ... I'm all calm now. And the next time I get upset about something, I'll turn off the computer before doing anything i'll regret later!

yellowlynn Wrote:There usta was a way to change print size, but me ain't found that yit. I'm tarred of cleaning nose prints offa my screen.

Lynn

Lynn, if you've got a mouse with a roller on the top, you should be able to HOLD DOWN the Ctrl key and roll the mouse roller up or down to make internet text bigger or smaller.
Also, here on Big Blue, up towards the top right hand corner is a capitol A with a down arrow on one side and an up arrow on the other. Clicking on it will take you through a loop of varying text sizes.

yellowlynn Wrote:There usta was a way to change print size, but me ain't found that yit. I'm tarred of cleaning nose prints offa my screen.

Lynn

I should ask my cat. Every time he jumps on the keyboard, he manages to change the font size and press the "num lock" button

Nachoman, that sounds like a personal problem. I need to find the num UNLOCK. I think somebody hit the num lock just right an I got num and locked from the neck up. Everybody says I should wear a casket over my head because I appear dead from the neck up.

Trainnut, you should be ashamed of yourself, picking on an old man like that!!! Who would ever dream that by finding a cobweb covered A (dusty because nobody but me needs to use it) makes print bigger. A big sign with an arrow pointing to it, with "Hey old man, look here" would be an appropiate gesture. In spite of dust and cobwebs and various and sundry camouflage, I found it. Now, one and all, WATCH OUT!! I can read what you write

By the way Trainnut, thanks for the help.

Lynn

When I joined the new forum, I tried all the different styles, but came back to the blue one. Any of the others are just not "Big Blue".

Links can be made bold or larger to make them more readable http://www.andersley.co.uk

As biL correctly notes, the red can be difficult for some to read, especially on the blue background. I find some of the pastel shades do a good job of standing out from the regular text, yet still remain legible against the blue.

Like this one, for instance... (third one down on the extreme right of the colour options)

or this... (bottom line, fourth from the right)

or perhaps this... (bottom line, fourteenth from the right)

or even this one... (third down, fourth from the right)

Wayne

A thousand pardons to everyone ... I was out of line, I own up to it and apologize for going off on a rant that way. I was upset by several related and unrelated things and trying to read the red-on-blue link just set me off. I was also very tired at the time and my eyes were killing me! I was wrong and I'm man enough to admit it ... on the rare occasion that I AM wrong.

But that is no excuse for not being in control of myself ... so I apologize!

P5se Camelback Wrote:A thousand pardons to everyone ... I was out of line, I own up to it and apologize for going off on a rant that way. I was upset by several related and unrelated things and trying to read the red-on-blue link just set me off. I was also very tired at the time and my eyes were killing me! I was wrong and I'm man enough to admit it ... on the rare occasion that I AM wrong.

But that is no excuse for not being in control of myself ... so I apologize!

Apology accepted Bil hehehe