He is looking for someone to officially head up the recreation of the index. The NMRA has agreed to host it on their website as a free, open, resource. Joe has said that he has the ability to do the job, but does not have the time. If you go to <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/forum">http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/forum</a><!-- m --> that will put you to the forum index. Look down to the section titled "Let's Talk Trains." The first subsection is General discussion. open General Discussion and look for the thread titled "Discontinued Magazine Index" and go to page 9 to a post by Joe dated 7/27/2010-11:52. In that post Joe puts forth the details of what they are looking for. As he says in the post, he is qualified, but doesn't have the time to do it. He is looking for qualified people to submit a resume in order to select someone to head up the project. All of the details on how to submit a resume are on the web site. It is to be a voluntary effort without payment except for the knowledge that you have done your fellow model railroaders a great service.
Thanks for the update, Russ. I'm glad to see progress on this. It's nice to see someone being more positive about it than my snarkiness can be at times. For all the grunting and griping about Kalmbach, there are always more positive solutions worth devoting time and energy to.
I for one do not have the computer chops to work on such an effort but hopefully somebody here (or out there in cyberspace somwhere) does and will step up to the plate.
Galen
ocalicreek Wrote:Thanks for the update, Russ. I'm glad to see progress on this. It's nice to see someone being more positive about it than my snarkiness can be at times. For all the grunting and griping about Kalmbach, there are always more positive solutions worth devoting time and energy to.
I for one do not have the computer chops to work on such an effort but hopefully somebody here (or out there in cyberspace somwhere) does and will step up to the plate.
Galen
But, this may be one of those situations where a little complaining and uneasiness was enough to promote action on this issue. I am quite sure someone will volunteer to maintain this.
Russ Bellinis Wrote:He is looking for someone to officially head up the recreation of the index.... It is to be a voluntary effort without payment except for the knowledge that you have done your fellow model railroaders a great service.
Don't laugh. If I had the computer skills I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I believe in doing something good for other people even if you don't receive a reward in return. I may not always live that way, but I try and I believe this hobby is full of other like-minded folks. Many of them are right here at The Gauge. What is rewarding is not always profitable. Just look at how much it costs to have kids! OR, to stay within the realm of the forum, how much the average train layout costs per square foot. A hobby is a rewarding venture that may not pay us anything monetary in return. Something like this index, for the good of all, is a good example.
Galen
Russ,
used your link to get over to MRH, and joined, and posted there.
I really don't have the skills ( or the technology for that matter ) to be of much help, but as I posted there, I can keep eyes and ears open for anyone who might be able to join that project.
I left a link there, back to "the-gauge".
ocalicreek Wrote:Don't laugh. If I had the computer skills I'd sign up in a heartbeat. I believe in doing something good for other people even if you don't receive a reward in return. I may not always live that way, but I try and I believe this hobby is full of other like-minded folks. Many of them are right here at The Gauge. What is rewarding is not always profitable. Just look at how much it costs to have kids! OR, to stay within the realm of the forum, how much the average train layout costs per square foot. A hobby is a rewarding venture that may not pay us anything monetary in return. Something like this index, for the good of all, is a good example.
Galen
I get it Galen....if I wrote down the things I do for my industry to give back to the community, especially the handicapped community, it would take several pages just to list them out. What I find funny, and I must laugh, is a couple of things.....I've read many negative comments about what Kalmbach has done, and I find it funny that quite a few of the ones crying the loudest don't even subscribe to MRR, (including you). It is obvious to me this decision is probably based on available resources, of which are directly affected by subscription $$$$. Maybe if their revenue was where it once was, this would never have happened. The second funny fact to me is that everyone is touting Joe Fugate and the NMRA as the saviours of the hobby for their efforts to save the index.
Sorry, but I feel the hobby itself is bigger than both of them. And lastly, before I make any enemies, you are naive to think that any saving of this index is purely to give back to the hobby...I bet donuts to dollars that whoever "saves" this thing will use it to their advantage as an enticement to gather new paying members for the NMRA or to increase readership of the MRH, thus making paid advertising more lucrative, thus everyone, if they play it right receives a measurable benefit, not just because they are good guys. And they want someone to do it for free for THEM.
AS Tom Hagen put it in The Godfather...."...it's business, Sonny, don't make it personal..."
The NMRA has promised to not put the index behind any "members only" log in, but put it out in the public domain. They are simply offering their band width as a place to host the index. The index will not have anything to do with MRH, and won't be on their site. Joe is just "stepping up to the plate" to help out with getting people capable of doing the work connected to get the index done. The plan at this point is to do something along the lines of Wikipedia, where anyone would be able to offer updates to the index with a couple of volunteers to check accuracy of the information posted.