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Arrived in my inbox - another train-wreck video...but this one's so much more like the way most derailments occur - at slow speed. Most don't realize the destruction all that inertia and power can cause without a whole lot of velocity. The video also illustrates the sequence of events encompassed in "throwing the switch" to pull into another track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Nq632eV...r_embedded I've been "in" a few of these, but never got to watch what happened ! Popcornbeer Bob C.
Wow! That was crazy! Thumbsup
At such slow speed, I would never have guessed that the covered hoppers would have turned over. Cool video.
Holy Cow... so it doesn't just happen on my layout. It happens in 1:1 scale too!!!

Oh my gosh!!! I have a prototypical layout!!!!!
Boy does that video bring back memories!!!

Then of course there are little things like this that can happen too...[attachment=6448]
FCIN Wrote:Boy does that video bring back memories!!!

Then of course there are little things like this that can happen too...[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]
ohh, oups!

That poor hopper must have hurt itself?! :-) Not even mentioning the bridge...
Guys,That's why it pays to stay in the "safe zone" at least 100' from the closest rail.

Ed,Glad that wasn't the engine..
Brakie Wrote:Guys,That's why it pays to stay in the "safe zone" at least 100' from the closest rail.

Ed,Glad that wasn't the engine..
I always wonder about that... as I'm sitting in my car
15FT FROM THE GRADE CROSSING!!!!!
Eek Eek Eek Eek Eek Eek Eek
deckroid Wrote:Holy Cow... so it doesn't just happen on my layout. It happens in 1:1 scale too!!!

Oh my gosh!!! I have a prototypical layout!!!!!

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great find bob....I love that kind of stuff, it makes me fell better when my own stuff wrecks.
Ed, what kind of trestle was that? An industrial spur? I don't see enough support there to hold an engine. The trestle looks amazingly spindly and weak to start with.
Geez Ed, that mess looks like it occurred awfully close to that childrens sandy play area with their toy trucks! Eek Eek Eek
Ralph
Gary S Wrote:Ed, what kind of trestle was that? An industrial spur? I don't see enough support there to hold an engine. The trestle looks amazingly spindly and weak to start with.
Gary;

That trestle was on the F&C main line. That photo makes the trestle look "spindly" because the load of corn had taken out the first two bents and almost the third.

Here are a couple more photos of the accident that give you a better idea of the trestle and the area where it happened - the Indian Hills subdivision, Frankfort, KY, where I now live.[attachment=6466]Looking at the End of the trestle. Not visible in the background is a major 4 lane highway crossing that we crossed before coming on to the trestle. That's my little wife in the top of the photo surveying the damage. Or she may have been preparing to supervise the clean up! She's good at that.[attachment=6465]Looking toward east end of trestle. As you can see in this photo, houses were constructed pretty close to the ROW all the way though this area. The trestle was no more than 25ft high at its highest point. Rail is 70 pound.

If you look closely, you can see the trestle passed over a street at the east end. At least once a year, a motorist would hit the trestle bent in the middle of the road and knock the trestle out of alignment. The track gang could would just use jacks and push it back into alignment.

This accident happened around 9pm on a nice 20 degree Monday night in January 1982. We were in route to Old Grandad Distillery with two empty box cars and two loads of corn. SCL 243551 was the last car on the train. The engine was just passing the red house you see in the photo when the train went in to emergency. Didn't feel a thing and couldn't see what had happened. So I climbed down off the engine, walked to the east end of the trestle and then back along the trestle and there it was!

As I was walking along, I could hear all these sirens and was wondering what else was going on, but then realized that the people had called the fire department. Three fire trucks, two ambulance's and every police officer on the force where quickly on the scene!

Clean up took about one week. A salvage contractor pumped all the corn out of the car and they used a D9 Cat with side booms to pull the car up the incline and put it back on its trucks. The F&C had an L&N B&B gang come in and rebuild that part of the trestle. By the following Monday, we were able to start switching Old Grandad again.

Reason for the collapse was determined to be soft ground. It had rained a lot over the weekend before and the first bent in the trestle simply slipped out from under the weight of the passing train. One thing that has always stuck in my mind - besides the fact that it could have just as easily been the engine that took the nose dive (an ALCo S2 running cab first) was the lady that kept wanting to know what happened to the men in the caboose. There was of course no caboose, but she'd obviously noticed our trains with one engine pulling and one pushing very often and thought that the pusher was a caboose!

Didn't mean to steal this thread. That video was really great. Right place at the right time! And yes, cars will roll over like those in the video, even moving at speeds less than 10 mph. Have seen it first hand myself.
Thaks for the great comentary, and it is cool to hear about it from someone that was there. That trestle still looks spindly to me, and I am surprised that it is a mainline trestle. It just looks like somebody grabbed a bunch of boards and nails and threw it together! Misngth

1982, I guess the locos were smaller than what is used today. Would that trestle hold up one of today's humongous modern locos?

Thanks again for the info.
Gary S Wrote:1982, I guess the locos were smaller than what is used today. Would that trestle hold up one of today's humongous modern locos?
No way!!! Maximum gross weight on the line was 230,000lbs because of the numerous wooden trestles and light rail.

The F&C used 2-8-0's in their steam days and then replaced them with GE 70 tonners. They then purchased used ALCo S-2's/S-4's in the late 70's which were actually too heavy for the 70 pound rail in my opinion.

Pinsley had actually purchased and painted a CF-7 for the F&C, but it never made here. That would have been too heavy for the line for sure! I sure wouldn't have wanted to be the first to ride it over any of the F&C's trestles!!

I guess you mentioning larger power reminded me of this, but you know how us model railroaders think that a No. 8 turnout is so long? Well, the switch off the L&N main line leading into the Frankfort yard was/is a No. 8 turnout as were most of the turnouts in the yard and 6-axle locomotives were never permitted to enter the yard because it was such a sharp turnout! Just think, most of us tend to not use anything larger than a No. 6 on our layouts and we think nothing of running models of 6 axle engines through them!
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