I had to top working on my layout trailer today to go to town for a ton of topsoil, since that particular item had migrated to somewhere near the top of my perpetual "honey-do" list. Right across the road from the landscaping place was an old - probably 30's - EUCLID heavy dump truck. Those things would make great modeling subjects for people with mining or construction on their layouts.

Interesting thing was that the yard people said it still works and they actually use it in day-to-day hauling around their yard.

Maybe this will help...

MountainMan Wrote:Maybe this will help...

Helps a lot. Looks like a R-17 to me which was in production from 1968 on, but never offered in the US. Maybe its a different model, but its definately '70s or later (style of the cab).

SP1 Wrote:

MountainMan Wrote:Maybe this will help...

Helps a lot. Looks like a R-17 to me which was in production from 1968 on, but never offered in the US. Maybe its a different model, but its definately '70s or later (style of the cab).

I think the one I saw was older, but I couldn't find an exact image match.

DUnno if this pic will link properly, but here is a Euclid Model 1Z, their first dump truck, produced int he early 30's - was it one of these?



--Randy

That's look like it!

It would make an interesting scratch build project in HO scale. I would not want to try it in N-scale. The most difficult part of building one would be wheels, but both A-line and Herpa offer the Dayton spoke wheels. A-line calls theirs "Mack spoke wheels" while Herpa identifies theirs correctly as Dayton Spoke wheels. The rest of the truck would need to be built from scratch, but I think grilles and louvers from an old locomotive shell could be used to make the sides of the hood and the radiator.

Since typically the early pick up truck cabs were identical to the cabs on large trucks, they just sat higher on top of the bigger heavier truck frames, you could take a Jordan Model A ford pickup kit in plastic and fabricate a larger frame from Plastruct, and install the Jordan body on the frame, using the A-line or Herpa wheels. I would still make a hood from scratch because the engine of a heavy duty truck was a lot bigger than the little 4 cylinder used in the Ford. The cab would not match the Euclid, but could be a decent "generic" stand in for a period correct truck of the late 1920's through the 1930's.

Russ Bellinis Wrote:It would make an interesting scratch build project in HO scale. I would not want to try it in N-scale. The most difficult part of building one would be wheels, but both A-line and Herpa offer the Dayton spoke wheels. A-line calls theirs "Mack spoke wheels" while Herpa identifies theirs correctly as Dayton Spoke wheels. The rest of the truck would need to be built from scratch, but I think grilles and louvers from an old locomotive shell could be used to make the sides of the hood and the radiator.

Since typically the early pick up truck cabs were identical to the cabs on large trucks, they just sat higher on top of the bigger heavier truck frames, you could take a Jordan Model A ford pickup kit in plastic and fabricate a larger frame from Plastruct, and install the Jordan body on the frame, using the A-line or Herpa wheels. I would still make a hood from scratch because the engine of a heavy duty truck was a lot bigger than the little 4 cylinder used in the Ford. The cab would not match the Euclid, but could be a decent "generic" stand in for a period correct truck of the late 1920's through the 1930's.

Groan - I know...scratch building anything in N-scale is a pain. :?

These 1:144 scale Deuce and a halves might be a good base to start with...

One could, although they would end up throwing away most of the truck as it stands. Even the tires are wrong.

Not totally, the 1ZW in the inset picture is a special model with 'track tires' on the back. They didn't all have that.

--Randy

rrinker Wrote:Not totally, the 1ZW in the inset picture is a special model with 'track tires' on the back. They didn't all have that.

--Randy

Military trucks all have the standard Mud/Snow molded lug pattern, unsuitable for civilian trucks of that period.