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Well-Educated but Obnoxious Cell Phone User Ejected from Train

by Marilisa Kinney Sachteleben – Sun Jun 19, 12:44 pm ET

High five to the New York Metro North train employee who asked the loud, offensive cell phone user to tone it down. Thumbs down to the cell phone user who informed the train employee that she was "too well educated" to be asked to quiet down and stop using the F-bomb. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

The NY train passenger was caught on cell phone ranting to the train employee who had asked her to quiet down. Numerous times, the rider repeated that she was not "some little hoodlum". That's a bizarre and slanderous comment to make about kids. Kids aren't the only people who inappropriately use cell phones. Clearly, from her use of the f-bomb, kids aren't the only ones to use foul language. Kids learn bad habits from adults.

Several times, the woman refers to herself as a well-educated woman. She rudely asks if the train employee is aware of how many schools she's been to. Vulgar cursing and an ivy league education make strange bedfellows. Even in plebeian high schools, cursing is verboten. It's unfair expect to have better behavior than adults. My grandfather always said that you could tell how cultured a person was by the amount or lack of cursing in their vocabulary.

Regardless of how well-educated she is, the woman seems to have missed the lectures on common sense and common courtesy. She's basically saying, "I am educated, therefore the rules don't apply to me; actually, the reverse is true. The rules apply to you, even more so because you have learned how to communicate properly.

You can watch in the video how rude and obnoxious the woman is even when confronting the train attendant. Did she learn nothing about problem-solving at her many schools? Children are taught in preschool not to scream and abuse each other when settling minor playground differences. Sounds like "well-educated woman" needs to go back to the basics.

It's good to see public transportation employees cracking down on loud cell phone users. Another woman was escorted off a train when she talked for 16 hours in a loud, carrying voice. I screamed with laughter at the description of riding with 16-hour-talker Lakeysha Beard: like being in "the fifth circle of hell". No wonder everyone cheered when authorities decided to "throw mama from the train." Danny Devito and Billy Crystal would have loved it.

Some of us parents are scrupulous about behavior expectations for our children in public. We don't allow our children to be loud, disruptive or disrespectful. We expect them to speak in a reasonable tone. Then along comes some adult who talks like a sailor and babbles loudly and incessantly. The only good thing that can be said is that it provides a good negative example. I always tell my kids: "See that? That's how I don't want you to act."

People who talk loudly on cell phones or in public are generally exhibitionists. They want everyone to hear their conversations. They crave attention. I like people well enough, but I'm not that interested in my fellow man that I want to hear every detail of their conversation. I'm one of those people who get annoyed with public displays of private issues. It makes me want to smash the cell phone and plug the yap-hole with an apple.

"Well-educated woman" was fortunate in that she chose a patient, professional train attendant to rant to. I'm sure the rest of the passengers wanted to launch her bodily from the train on her well-educated rear end.

Marilisa Kinney Sachteleben writes from 22 years parenting four children and 25 years teaching K-8, special needs, communication, adult education and homeschool.
Yes, the lady with the cell phone was obviously a rather rude and inconsiderate person.

At any given time there probably are somewhere between a few thousand and a few million people somewhere on this planet of about 5-6 billion people that does things that the people around them will find rude, annoying and inconsiderate.

But what does this have to do with model railroading?

Smile,
Stein
Hey Steinjr, It's along the same lines as the previously posted Lady on the Phone Thread.
I know it is along the same lines as the long running thread about that other rude lady.

I was just questioning whether there was much point in using a model railroading forum to air our various grievances about other users of public transportation. Whether we really need yet another thread where everybody are bound to agree that the "lady" in question is not much of a lady, or to have a bunch of old guys then start on how society is going downhill, how things were much better 50 years ago and so on and so forth ?

Yes, the lady was rude. It was right to chuck her off the train. What else can one reasonably say in this thread?

Smile,
Stein
Steinjr, It was a satirical op ed piece. It's an a sign of where people's heads are in this world. If people don't want to read it then they don't have to read it. I won't take it personally. It's that simple.
Mike,
thanks for posting,was there a link to video that I missed? I love that train conductors and subway drivers are starting to crack down on rude cell phone users. The invention of the cell phone has changed our lives for the better... and the worse.

Dave
steinjr Wrote:[option 1] where everybody are bound to agree that the "lady" in question is not much of a lady

[option 2] a bunch of old guys then start on how society is going downhill, how things were much better 50 years ago and so on and so forth

As one of the "old guys", I must point out that a third option exists:

Option 3: some young guy whines about this topic being placed in a model railroad forum and then wastes his time responding to it

So far, option 3 is the only one that has come to fruition. 8-) Tongue 357 Misngth Big Grin 35

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Gary S Wrote:
steinjr Wrote:[option 1] where everybody are bound to agree that the "lady" in question is not much of a lady

[option 2] a bunch of old guys then start on how society is going downhill, how things were much better 50 years ago and so on and so forth

As one of the "old guys", I must point out that a third option exists:

Option 3: some young guy whines about this topic being placed in a model railroad forum and then wastes his time responding to it

So far, option 3 is the only one that has come to fruition. 8-) Tongue 357 Misngth Big Grin 35

Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship

My deepest apologies for stepping on your somewhat tender toes.

Feel free to go ahead and complain about young people these days. Umm ... guess you have already started on that.

Oh well - feel free to continue to complain, based on a yahoo posts by a Detroit housewife who is a self appointed yahoo "contributor", writing about an episode which supposedly happened on a commuter train north of New York City.

Smile,
Stein
Wow guys, throttle back a little. Some easily hurt feelings today. Lets not start fighting among each other over some inconsiderate person that none of have ever met and that doesn't effect any of us personally.
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steinjr Wrote:My deepest apologies for stepping on your somewhat tender toes.

No need to apologize. I appreciate your good humor. Thumbsup

steinjr Wrote:Feel free to go ahead and complain about young people these days. Umm ... guess you have already started on that.

The only complaining I see on this thread is coming from a keyboard that resides in Norway. 35 A fairly new member posts something that you see no point in - doesn't mean you have to step in and chastise him for it, and then get in a shot on the "old guys" for good measure. Let it go. Icon_lol

PJ Wrote:Wow guys, throttle back a little. Some easily hurt feelings today. Lets not start fighting among each other over some inconsiderate person that none of have ever met and that doesn't effect any of us personally.

Not to worry, no hurt feelings.

I've been enjoying Mike's (aka Port Able) posts, and see no reason to alienate him from Big Blue.

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Gary S Wrote:The only complaining I see on this thread is coming from a keyboard that resides in Norway

This particular keyboard actually resides in Roseville, MN, a suburb just to the north of St. Paul :-)

And Mike (whom I am already aquainted with from other forums, and whom I exchange emails and personal messages with from time to time) was not horribly offended and scared.

New York's finest doesn't scare quite that easily.

Grin,
Stein
steinjr Wrote:And Mike (whom I am already aquainted with from other forums, and whom I exchange emails and personal messages with from time to time) was not horribly offended and scared. New York's finest doesn't scare quite that easily.


Oh! My apologies then. By all means, continue bashing on Mike's choice of subject matter. Thumbsup 357
Looks like this would be a good time for a group hug and Kumbaya ... Goldth Goldth
steinjr Wrote:And Mike (whom I am already aquainted with from other forums, and whom I exchange emails and personal messages with from time to time) was not horribly offended and scared.

Well that's good to know! The rest of us thought we saw the piano player stop playing and all the patrons jump behind the bar! Goldth

Ralph
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