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Hello!
Stimulated by Pete, i rememberd my ghost fleet. Shipmodels that i build long ago in the eraly 1980's for a planned H0 layout situated in Northern Germany. There were also a lot of buildings and other stuff of German origin collected and build for this never realized layout.
But alas, a real 1:1 house was bought and this house needed all my attention to convert it to a home for my family. For several years then we lived on a construction site because we made a lot of the work do it yourself. So nearly all of the model RR stuff was stored away, far away, too far away.
Nowadays the work is done, the house and dept charges complete paid off and is 100% our own property.
Times changed, i became an US Model RR fan and the German stuff almost forgotten.
So the planned layout was never started.

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The first model is a freighter who is coming out of the fog of the past. With all his dust and spiderweb glory. Wink

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The model is 87cm long and at least a "shorty" because of it's relative shortness compared to real ships.
As comparison a prototype 80' coach is compressed to 50' in model.
It is also not the model of a real prototype. Here i tried make a generic model of a typical period freighter.

Lutz
Hi Lutz, beautiful models. Thumbsup Thumbsup
You do realise that German ships do come to US ports to be unloaded onto US railcars, so I can see a place for the models. They are just too nice to leave packed away now.
There are also towns built by German immigrants that could have houses reminding them of home.
Charlie
87 cm.....let's see, X+ X/y - 54Z squared :o Wallbang Wallbang Oh never mind !
Eighty seven Centimeters ( HO scale model ) is approximately 248 feet 4.0 inches, which, in HO scale, is a reasonably large vessel to "build a pier, and provide a place on the layout for".
My coastal freighter ( built from a Lindberg North Atlantic Trawler kit ) measures 125 feet ( about half the length ), and commands a large area of water ! ( it takes up a "fair chunk" of the scale five acres, in the new modules !! )

That is a good looking freighter ! Thumbsup The pier that ties up to, would make a great "ISL" Big Grin Big Grin Cheers
O.k.
there was some other stuff too.

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This is a bashed tugboat from Lindberg / Revell.

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This American prototype was modiefied to match a more European look. So a typical slip hook was scratch built and mounted.

And for exact scale ships:
A typical Great Lakes ore boat at the turn of the century (1899 / 1900) has reached a lenght about 500 feet.
In 1:87 the lenght will be app. 5.75 feet, that are app. 70' and at least 175cm.
Who has on his layout a space of 5 3/4 feet or 1.75m? Confusedhock:

Lutz
Schraddel Wrote:Who has on his layout a space of 5 3/4 feet or 1.75m? Confusedhock: Lutz

357 :o I only have 5.5 feet, from the foot of the falls to the front of the boathouse, and there isn't any room to get a ship that large around the bend in the Kennequogue, at the Seaport Village and Museum. Nope :o Sad

Nice modification of the Lindberg CG Tug kit !! Thumbsup
A second freightship, never completed:

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Instead on an large hatch i decides to date back and made two hatches. Instead of the modern cranes i planned to built a conventional loading rigg.

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The superstructure is only stacked loose to show how it will have look if completed.

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The lenght is app. 85cm.
And in this case it will be a scale model of an "Kümo" (coastal trading vessel).

Can it be reality the Welland Canal was a little bit earlier enlarged before 1959? Wink

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A small coastal flat bottomed sailing vessel. This type was called "Schokker". This is a ready made all wooden model which was sold as souvenir. I decided it has the right size for H0.

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At least a typical harbour crane.
"Portalwipplagerdrehkran" (Sorry i found no adequate English translation.)

Lutz
Schraddel Wrote:At least a typical harbour crane.
"Portalwipplagerdrehkran" (Sorry i found no adequate English translation.) Lutz

That's similar to what I know as a "Shipyard Crane ", or "mobile pier crane"
I knew I had a photo of the "Dock Crane", somewhere:
The crane support, is from an old plastic kit, the crane is an Athearn 200 ton rail crane, removed from its flatcar.
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Here, the Coastal freighter, a coastal "collier" from the same "Trawler kit", the modified Revell "Harbor Tug", and the modified Lindberg Coast Guard Tug.
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Schraddel,

Are both the white unfinished model and the completed model next to it with the two containers from both the same Lindberg Atlantic Trawler Kit? Very nice work.

Larry
fast car Wrote:Schraddel, Are both the white unfinished model and the completed model next to it with the two containers from both the same Lindberg Atlantic Trawler Kit? Very nice work. Larry

Larry,
The " white unfinished model " ( with the red "Revell Harbor Tug" pilot house, from the smaller of the tugs, behind the ships ) is a Collier, a Coastal coal hauler. It has two equally sized cargo hatches, and is unloaded with a crane with a standard clam shell bucket. ( probably a dock crane at the pier. . . but that may change )
The " completed model next to it with the two containers " is a Coastal Freighter, there is a large single cargo hatch under the two containers. It also has a Revell Harbor tug pilot house, that was salvaged from a "wreck".
Both ships started with the Fishing Trawler hull, and some kit bashing /scratch building, in styrene.
I still have one of the Fishing Trawler kits, and one of the Tuna Clipper kits left on the shelf, waiting for me to decide what to turn them into. ( and I do not have another Harbor Tug, to steal the pilot house from ) So, I'll have to figure out what style pilot house the last "Trawler" will get.
http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic...=22&t=5936 is where the "Collier's original pilot house" ended up.
The "finished" ship is the "Louis Arthur", named for my father.
The tour ship I'm working on will most probably become the "Letty D" for my mother.
Pete
Sumpter250 Wrote:
fast car Wrote:Schraddel, Are both the white unfinished model and the completed model next to it with the two containers from both the same Lindberg Atlantic Trawler Kit? Very nice work. Larry

Larry,
The " white unfinished model " ( with the red "Revell Harbor Tug" pilot house, from the smaller of the tugs, behind the ships ) is a Collier, a Coastal coal hauler. It has two equally sized cargo hatches, and is unloaded with a crane with a standard clam shell bucket. ( probably a dock crane at the pier. . . but that may change )
The " completed model next to it with the two containers " is a Coastal Freighter, there is a large single cargo hatch under the two containers. It also has a Revell Harbor tug pilot house, that was salvaged from a "wreck".
Both ships started with the Fishing Trawler hull, and some kit bashing /scratch building, in styrene.
I still have one of the Fishing Trawler kits, and one of the Tuna Clipper kits left on the shelf, waiting for me to decide what to turn them into. ( and I do not have another Harbor Tug, to steal the pilot house from ) So, I'll have to figure out what style pilot house the last "Trawler" will get.
http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic...=22&t=5936 is where the "Collier's original pilot house" ended up.
The "finished" ship is the "Louis Arthur", named for my father.
The tour ship I'm working on will most probably become the "Letty D" for my mother.
Pete

Pete,

Nice job on the boat bashing. I would like to do something like this for my Miami River Layout without going to great expense. I might try scratch buillding a superstructure for the freighter.

On our cruise last March out of Fort Lauderdale, our cruise ship was parked next to a possibly 300' container ship. The superstructure was fairly strait forward and appears just as stacked decks without a lot of detail.


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Building modern ships is not a big problem. There are no more "lines", only boxy square structures even on the hull.
It is quite easy to make them out of plain styrene sheet.

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The only rounded shapes to be found on this 300 feet coastal freighter are on the bow.
The rest is a collection of rectangles, triangles, paralellograms and plain areas.

Lutz
Lutz,

I agree with you that constructing a modern day container ship would not present too many problems when using sheet plastic. I would like to try it sometime. After emailing Deans Marine, it is possible to get a blank container hull from any of the ships they offer and add your own decking and superstructures. The hulls vary in length from 36 to 40 inches and retail for less than $100.00 US.


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Wee, you drive me mad!

This is also available by Deans Marine:
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Heavy weathered this 3-island steamer will be an ancient rustbucket never-come-back liner :mrgreen:

Lutz
Lutz,

I agree that is a beautiful ship model. I would like to purchase one however the cost of 420.00 USD not including shipping and any applicable taxes, makes one think twice. It is within the basic scale one would need for HO scale model railroading (1/76 or 1/83).

I lean more towards the hull since it has the length and nearly the beam (within 25mm) of the model I attached. The hull doesn't really tell the ship size since it will be setting at water line depth. The superstructure, however, needs to be more so correct with the scale you are modeling. That being said, the price of the hull is also quite steep.


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Larry