I know that to some extent Pullman cars where interchanged between railroads. I am wondering if, and to what extent railroads interchanged their home road passenger cars??
I know that the PRR, NYC and Wabash (to a lesser extent) all shared Detroit Unioin Terminal with the PM.
I am wondering if it would be prototypical to have passenger equipment, outside of the typical head end cars, from a different road?
I have come across some information about this practice, but only as it pertained to head end cars and Pullman. Not that it would directly effect my passenger operations, as I do not plan on doing extensive passenger switching. I know I will have through traffic featuring PRR and NYC as well as my home road, but they might have to stop and pick up a sleeper, or swap out dining cars.
It is not an important issue to me, my curiousity stems more from a rail fan perspective.
Matt
Matt, I can tell you for sure the PRR had a sleeper designed for the California Zephyr.
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Charlie
Thank you Charlie. I had thought that the interchange had occured on a regular, or semi-regular basis. You just settled an arguement.
Matt
It seems to me I remember something about the U.P. cutting a deal with the Milwaukee Road and the Soo Line to run through passenger trains where head end power was changed, but the passenger cars went through from one railroad to the other. I wish I could remember the details as to which railroads were involved.
Somewhere recently, remember a note about PRR through cars to the AT&SF, then saw a photo of same somewhere on the web within the last week. Hate these SENIOR-ICRS moments ! If I find the info again I'll post it . :oops: Bob C.
RMC ran an article a year or so ago about the interchange of RPO/mail or baggage cars between the CNJ ,RDG and PRR.if you can find it that might help.
Well, it wasn't really interchange, but NYC passenger cars (and locomotives, too) made it as far as Toronto, via TH&B and CNR lines, and there was a car off the Lehigh Valley that regularly ran as far as Toronto on the CNR, via Niagara Falls. In one of Ian Wilson's books on CNR branchlines in southern Ontario, there's a photo of a NYC lightweight baggage car in Owen Sound, about 130 miles north of Hamilton, Ontario, where you might more usually see one.
Wayne
I don't have my references, but look up "Pool Trains". A number of railroads paired up to run trains with cars of both railroads along normally competitive routes. This may have been a depression or wartime measure, but I remember riding on one in the 50s in a CNR car over the CPR. These were trains run between major cities with no further shunting on route.
I forget what two railroads did it, but I read somewhere(MR maybe?), that one named train from Chicago to LA(I think), the passenger cars would be that same all the way through, they would just change locos when it came time to run on the other's railroads line.
Pool trains such as the CNW and UP City of Denver.
I seem to recall that the NYC and PM ran a pool train through Canada.
Matt
Got my Google in gear - here's a source on PRR/ATSF run-through equipment including baggage, horse, scenery cars and sleepers - scroll down the linked page -
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Bob,
That was a VERY helpful link, thank you. I have it bookmarked.
On a seperate note...
There is a difference between Pool cars and passenger interchange. Passenger interchange is the same thing as freight interchange, with the obvious caveat being that the commodity is people.
Pool traffic is by specific agreement, where at least 2 roads contribute rolling stock, or power to a passenger train. There are several examples of pool trains.
An example of interchange would be the Pere Marquette Resort Special. It would receive 2 cars, or up to entire trains from the B&O at Detroit, destined for Ludington or Traverse City, MI. If it where a matter of a few cars they would make a few switching moves. If it where an entire train they would just switch power. This was by specific agreement, but it was not a pool agreement. What I don't know is if the B&O swap was all Pullman, or if they were B&O or PM cars.
Matt