Wayne was talking about history of trucks in another thread, how archbar were banned back from interchange services in the late 30s (if I'm not wrong).

Well, that's the kind of detail that is overlook by most people, but while reading an article on North Korea on CNN, I was surprised (and not so much to be honest) to see archbar trucks in service in 2012... in North Korea.



Well, they have been "improved" with 3 springs on each side instead of two. We all know how certain countries still run antiquated rolling stuff, but I certainly didn't expect 19th century technology to be still in service...

BTW, no political fight, thought or whatever offensive stuff about this heated area of the world. Only talking about railroading and unusual stuff. These kind of serious things have a place to be discussed, NOT here.

Matt

Matt, all ok with your opinion about the political correctness - however, these old archbar trucks are in use of a local railroad without exchange services and there never were restrictions.

Wow, that's neat. Funny you mention the discussion on trucks posted by Doctorwayne, as that very thread has once again altered my era selection. (Thanks alot Wayne! ) I want to include older rolling stock, and the Andrews trucks are represented in force in my roster... so... well, time to backdate...again. It will give me an excuse to get rid of some more diesels and get some of those nice running steam engines that are available now. And, yes, some Arch Bar trucks too.

One of the best things about pre-contemporary railroading is the variety. It seems like nowadays most diesels all look the same, and most rolling stock follows common designs and ride on the exact same (in appearance) trucks. Not to mention the complete loss of some rolling stock types such as stock cars.

Dave

Puddlejumper Wrote:...

One of the best things about pre-contemporary railroading is the variety. It seems like nowadays most diesels all look the same, and most rolling stock follows common designs and ride on the exact same (in appearance) trucks. Not to mention the complete loss of some rolling stock types such as stock cars.

Dave

Absolute accordance ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Any rolling stock owned by the Cindys Harbor, that is used in interchange service, is "properly equipped".
That said, it's not at all surprising to see archbar, Fox, Andrews, etc., equipped rolling stock, of a bygone era, in a train headed by a BL20-2. The Cindys Harbor is, technically, a contemporary "Operating Railway Museum", and you will also see modern freight cars being pulled by Steam, fairly regularly on the "Harbor's" rails.

Puddlejumper Wrote:Wow, that's neat. Funny you mention the discussion on trucks posted by Doctorwayne, as that very thread has once again altered my era selection. (Thanks alot Wayne! ) I want to include older rolling stock, and the Andrews trucks are represented in force in my roster... so... well, time to backdate...again. It will give me an excuse to get rid of some more diesels and get some of those nice running steam engines that are available now. And, yes, some Arch Bar trucks too.

One of the best things about pre-contemporary railroading is the variety. It seems like nowadays most diesels all look the same, and most rolling stock follows common designs and ride on the exact same (in appearance) trucks. Not to mention the complete loss of some rolling stock types such as stock cars.

Dave

You're right. Few years ago, all I knew was old time = archbar, transition = bettendorf, modern = roller bearing. When you start looking, you find out there's so much variety under the box.

About contemporary stuff, I think it's why I never venture beyond the 80s (there was still a few old things on the rail back then). I hardly find any redeeming qualities to locomotive after Dash 9. The safety cab is so much denaturated! Too much new locomotives looks like boxes with appliances boxes on them. Well, I must admit genset and things like that have that ugly ducking look I like! ;-) (I'm ready to be stone after saying all that!) Some times, I wish ALCO was still in business, just to see some variety in cab design.

Matt

I have a picture somewhere of a tender at the Miami railroad museum that is on Fox trucks. (sorry, I thought archbar -- It was 5 or 6 years ago)

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That's wild. The oldest piece of rolling stock on Conrail was a non-revenue car, a rotary snowplow built in 1889, and it rode on Fox trucks.

http://www.trainweb.org/wnyrhs/mow.htm

Did anybody else take note of just how the truck, and the Anti Aircraft Gun, have been chocked and tied down?

The truck which looks like a Soviet knockoff of a WW11 era U.S. truck, and the AA Gun which looks like a Soviet knock off of a Bofos AA Gun have been secured
with small logs and twisted rope, which reminds me of photos from U.S WW11 rail movements, except the timber was rough sawn and the restraints were twisted fencing wire.

Mark