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jwb

Some guys here know that I maintain a list of very short prototype railroads at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.trainweb.org/lfnwfan/html/veryshortlines.htm">http://www.trainweb.org/lfnwfan/html/veryshortlines.htm</a><!-- m --> -- in fact, several guys here have helped me out with photos and other data, and I'm grateful.

Recently a Big Blue member PMed me asking if I'd provide links there or start a thread here on how to model these railroads. (My criteria are basically standard gauge, common carrier, connected to the main North American network, and 10 miles long or less). This actually leaves out some lines that don't quite make it, like the Middletown & Hummelstown, Amador Central, Ventura County Ry, Santa Maria Valley, and many others, so if anyone is interested in those, have at it!

Also, at least two guys who post photos of their layouts here are inspired at least in part by some railroads that are in fact on my list. Reinhard/Faraway has done 70-tonners for the Modesto & Empire Traction, which is a prototype very similar to the California style industrial operation he models. Len Turner appears to be inspired by East Texas short lines, two of which, the Angelina & Neches River and the Moscow, Camden & San Augustine, are on my list (and very much worth modeling). So partly, anyone who wants to model very short lines has some good examples right here.

Also, the late Carl Arendt's vision of very small layouts certainly included very short lines, and there are many, many examples of small layouts on his site. But also, it seems to me that there's a certain bias in modeling toward the small and interesting. My own ideal of a layout based on a very short line would include a lot of the features that's on one line on my list, the Strasburg. A good video showing the potential of the Strasburg for modeling is at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04dQQNllTs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04dQQNllTs</a><!-- m -->

If I were going to follow up on doing something in the spirit of the Strasburg -- which is also not too far from the spirit of modelers like John Allen -- I'd be looking to include small to medium size steam, WITH SOUND, some sort of tourist passenger operation as well as freight, and various other features to maximize interest in a smaller space, like making sure things like crossing flashers are operational.
Hmmmmmmm, I guess that means you don't buy into the "bigger is better" theory. Icon_lol I have always been attracted to shortlines and branchlines as well which is why my model railroad is a shortline that interchanges with a real shortline (Graham County Railroad) and a real branchline (Murphy branch of the Southern).
Short lines are easier to model, more cost effective, and don't require as much space. What's not to like? I've been a big fan of jwb's page for years.
One of the problems modeling a short line is the lack of knowledge of what a short line does,what type of locomotive(s) the short line uses and how they choose the best engine suited for the job.One needs to disciplined enough to only buy the type of cars the selected modeled industries used and that old team track excuse may not work.

The best thing about modeling a short line is you don't need all that many locomotives in fact one could suffice on a very short short line.

Also a terminal railroad isn't a true short line nor is a regional railroad.
Another good thing about shortliness is the amount of research you can do, to find out all the details of the area, traffic, history - it opens a whole new world!
I started off with Progressive Rail line in the Richfield-Bloomington area, and discovered it is known as the Dan Patch Line. Who's Dan Patch? Turns out to be a horse (champion pacer), but virtually unknown in the UK.
I spent months just researching this, with Google Earth for track layout, and pictures of the structures around the rail corridor. Even gave Powerpoint talks on Dan Patch!
Yes, it's short lines for me everytime!

Dave
One of the longest running shortline railroads in America doesn't meet your criteria by just over one mile. The Yreka Western RR connected the farms and businesses of Yreka, CA with the SP mainline at Montague about 11.5 miles away, and up until quite recently it still operated steam equipment on a regular basis for fans and locals.
MountainMan Wrote:One of the longest running shortline railroads in America doesn't meet your criteria by just over one mile. The Yreka Western RR connected the farms and businesses of Yreka, CA with the SP mainline at Montague about 11.5 miles away, and up until quite recently it still operated steam equipment on a regular basis for fans and locals.

Sticking wiith the "State of Jefferson" theme how about the AMR Arcata and Mad River RR at 2.7 mile----- really up to 8

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ratled
Well that's an interesting list. Thanks for sharing.
ratled Wrote:
MountainMan Wrote:One of the longest running shortline railroads in America doesn't meet your criteria by just over one mile. The Yreka Western RR connected the farms and businesses of Yreka, CA with the SP mainline at Montague about 11.5 miles away, and up until quite recently it still operated steam equipment on a regular basis for fans and locals.

Sticking wiith the "State of Jefferson" theme how about the AMR Arcata and Mad River RR at 2.7 mile----- really up to 8

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ratled

The 11.5 miles of Yreka trackage includes spurs and sidings, and it's been around a lot longer than most. If you exclude something like that, why not just exclude them all?

jwb

Yreka Western is on the list, very last entry. Any recent updates would be appreciated, but the YW web site is for sale, as apparently is everything else.
Great list! If I had not already picked a shortline (well, not as short as the very short ones in the list) this list would be really helpful.
JWB,
Thanks for mentioning me in your post! Love those shortlines!