I just found this:

MADRID (AP) — A security camera has captured the moment when a Spanish train veers off the track and crashes into a wall at high speed.

The footage posted Thursday on YouTube shows the train rounding a bend, making a turn to the left underneath a road overpass.

The train's first carriage behind the locomotive appears to come off the tracks first, slamming the tail of the locomotive into a concrete wall.

All the carriages can be seen starting to come off the tracks as the locomotive hurtles toward the camera position.

The security camera footage appears to stop at the moment that the engine crashes into it.

~~~~~~ Associated Press

You Tube Video:
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Saw it ...pretty horrific . It will be interesting to find the cause .

T

As fast as those trains go over there I hate to think of how many will be killed and injured.

teejay Wrote:Saw it ...pretty horrific . It will be interesting to find the cause .

T

Teejay,

the train had a speed of 190km/h (~118mph) at the beginning of the curve.

It should have been a maximum of only 80km/h (~50mph).

Both engineers survived, so it seems that it will be possible to find out why.

Sorry to see this, our hearts and prayers go out to all those involved and their families.

The video was on the noon news today, they say that it could have been traveling at 3X the speed limit, as IndyCity says, way to fast for that curve. Glad to hear that the crew is around to give their take and to be examined for anything suspicious or a medical condition. I'm hoping they have video of the crew as well..

I saw a couple of "stills" taken out of the security cam footage.
One simple question plagues my doubting mind.......
Why the :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: was that train moving so fast entering a curve.

- - - - - - It's LAWSUIT TIME !!!!!! The crew would have been better off if they had died with the others. " Curve coming up, let's give 'em a thrill ------" 'twasn't a good idea most certainly wasn't.

We really do learn more from our own mistakes - - - - - - - - - - - - or at least :oops: should !!!

I read a comment that the crew call the dispatcher on radio very short prior to the crash and complained they can not reduce the speed. No reason was given. We have to wait to learn what really happened.

would the train need electric power to apply the brakes? Why not drop the pantographs? I figure the crew would have had to have realized that there was a curve coming up, unless they thought they could make it? would dropping the pantographs cause a major issue (assuming the train began to slow down and coast to safe level)?

I know there are special rules for raising and lowering pantographs.

The hardest aspect will be that some experts warned to build the curve this way.

Good God, that's an awful bit of video.

A very horribly crash! My deep sympathy to all injured and survivors!

Well, I´m Spanish and have to say that the train derailment was not in Madrid, It was near Santiago de Compostela, a north western city in Spain.

Thank you for the clarification. What a terrible tragedy.

A little information about this train.
The train was a Talgo 730 hybrid. This train is electric and diesel, it can run in non electrified lines. Per train unit there are 2 operating heads (2 electric operating heads coupled to 2 trucks-backup generators for the diesel engines).

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A video of this train:

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Thank you for the additional information.
The accident occurred on broad gauge track (1668mm), am I correct?

Paul