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RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-02-2024
(10-02-2024, 01:33 AM)OBJack Wrote: Wow!! So impressed with the planning and the attention to detail.
If only I could go down that road it would have saved me a motza in dollars and time.
So neat and methodical I wonder if there is not an architect or engineer in there somewhere.
I await the progress with impatience.
Jack
Well...I would have enjoyed being an architect. My father was a civil engineer and my brother is a mechanical engineer so there may be one hiding deep inside!
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-02-2024
I really like the vertical element that the underpass/creek adds and its contrast to the viaduct on the right. Now its time to do a little benchwork design to accomodate all these ideas.
The basic design for this belongs to Kieran Ryan from Australia
Transferred the design to one piece of the foamed PVC pieces and taped them together so I could cut them all out at the same time on my scroll saw. The compass in the picture is my Dad's from college so its older than I am.
After the scroll saw and including the cross members. This first attempt on the cross members didn't work out to well so it was back to the drawing board for those.
So basically I just laid out all the cross members on a single sheet to make sure that the notches would all line up properly.
And here we go. A full benchwork kit!
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - TMo - 10-02-2024
No knee knockin' or foot bashing on that layout! That's a really good benchwork design. Again, once you do it in miniture, it's going to be much easier making the plan into the real deal.
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-03-2024
(10-02-2024, 05:03 PM)TMo Wrote: No knee knockin' or foot bashing on that layout! That's a really good benchwork design. Again, once you do it in miniture, it's going to be much easier making the plan into the real deal.
I'm certainly hoping that it will make things a little easier. Knowing where a problem can creep in should make it much more enjoyable experience.
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - zzrguy - 10-03-2024
That great how are you mount then to the wall?
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-04-2024
This one is going to be free standing. It needs to be a layout that I can take down and put away. If I was going to mount it to a wall I would use two french cleats, one at the top and one at the bottom. Each module is 4' long and 27" tall so my thought, at least right now, are four sets of independent legs maybe using some type of speaker stand.
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-04-2024
Now to take all these pieces and put them together. I noticed my first mistake pretty quickly. I cut the notches in the supports to wide. Not a big deal here but would certainly be a deal breaker if I was cutting plywood.
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So despite trying to keep everything nice and square I managed to torque the viaduct side out of alignment. The PVC sheet is flexible enough that its not a big deal on the model it would be a huge deal on the real thing. Fortunately I can build this in my shop and keep everything nice and square throughout the build. The one thing I think I need to add is another cross member on the back near the top. That area seems to be way to flexible for my liking.
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - zzrguy - 10-05-2024
(10-04-2024, 08:46 AM)Porthos63 Wrote: This one is going to be free standing. It needs to be a layout that I can take down and put away. If I was going to mount it to a wall I would use two french cleats, one at the top and one at the bottom. Each module is 4' long and 27" tall so my thought, at least right now, are four sets of independent legs maybe using some type of speaker stand.You could get away with just a single French Cleat up top and one or two set screws for the lower.
Here's a link to the legs I made for my NTraks module.
https://youtu.be/q761O5cNQRk?si=UiL6-br8AXjnl_fV
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-07-2024
(10-05-2024, 07:14 AM)zzrguy Wrote:(10-04-2024, 08:46 AM)Porthos63 Wrote: This one is going to be free standing. It needs to be a layout that I can take down and put away. If I was going to mount it to a wall I would use two french cleats, one at the top and one at the bottom. Each module is 4' long and 27" tall so my thought, at least right now, are four sets of independent legs maybe using some type of speaker stand.You could get away with just a single French Cleat up top and one or two set screws for the lower.
Here's a link to the legs I made for my NTraks module.
https://youtu.be/q761O5cNQRk?si=UiL6-br8AXjnl_fV
It could definitely be done with one french cleat. I was over thinking it a bit. Your video on the NTraks legs was quite enlightening, thank you!
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - Porthos63 - 10-08-2024
Now its just a matter of playing around with the building models to get a "skyline" that feels right. For a generic lower downtown Denver (Lodo) the operator will be facing west towards the mountains, Cherry Creek is to the left and Union Station is to the right (and off the layout). Denver's Union Station fronts on Wynkoop Street with the passenger tracks basically occupying Wewatta Street. Wewatta is basically the railroad mainline for much of its length. From a backdrop perspective the mountains are fairly distant so would probably only run about half way up the backdrop. Will have to experiment with how that will really look.
Here is the back row of buildings on the bridge module. I want to keep the buildings in the back relatively tall, mostly 3-5 stories. I think this is particularly important around the bridges to really use that vertical element and suggestion of a brick canyon.
And the back row on the viaduct module. Again taller around the viaduct itself to keep it from dominating the scene to much. When its actually built the viaduct isn't going to be anywhere near as chunky as my stand in.
An end to end look.
Now its time for the foreground buildings. Now its time to keep the heights a little lower to give the viewer a layered look and that brick canyon feel running from end to end. This should make some good picture opportunities. I intend to make all foreground buildings removable for operations. I'm thinking that loading docks would remain in place to show where the car spots are. There are fewer car spots along the front. The area to the right of the viaduct on the front will not have a building but rather remain a vacant lot for a team track.
Buildings for the creek module. Keeping all the buildings on the far left relatively tall.
And for the viaduct module. Again relatively tall around the viaduct with a vacant lot to get some good pictures of the trains coming from under the viaduct.
End to end look of the whole thing.
RE: Warehouse Row - A switching layout - zzrguy - 10-10-2024
Look great