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RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 09-08-2025
(09-08-2025, 11:55 AM)hillyard999 Wrote: Charlie,
Great picture.
that "quarry" scene raises a lot of questions.
how were the stones made so round? They were hand cut for the most part and I think there was a steam driven lathe for the finish cut
was there a giant lathe?
I notice all are stacked axis vertical.
It almost looks like they are pulled up from a pit to the left. They were cut from blocks in the sides of the quarry
There is the roof to a shed at the right. dynamite storage shed
The stacked blanks at right seem to be placed on uneven surface.
Likewise the supports for the jib pole mast.
Where is this place? Workers may be Chinese. It was in East Liverpool and the workers were all local workers
Very intriguing.
I find an article claiming they were used to grind flint (silica). The quarry was owned by a paper company ad I believe that to be why they would produce mill stones made of sandstone. The flint used by the pottery industry would have to be pure so I can't imagine using sandstone to grind it.
I came across this article from 1990 that is a better , true version
The mill stones were shipped around the country for use in paper mills to grind wood into pulp.
The International Pulp Stone Co., headquartered in Empire, Ohio, operated the California Hollow quarry at least 20 years, the brothers believe, and closed sometime in the 1920s. Bob Harding was superintendent, and "It was a very high grade of sandstone - the best the company ever found," Robert Mattern says. "The company only pulled out because they played out the quarry. It got to the place where there ^was too much overbearing (soil) on, the stone and it was too difficult to remove.''
It started with holes drilled in the earth at the top of the quarry. Dynamite was placed in the holes, and there would be a shout: "Fire in the hole!" and everybody ran," Robert Mattern remembers.Tons of dirt, blasted loose from the underlying rock, were loaded by steam shovel into wagons. The boys' father would haul the dirt to a spot below the present location of the Dresden Avenue Dairy Queen for dumping
I am posting a photo of the page as well as some other pictures that you may find of interest. I hope the page is readable You can use windows control and the plus key to enlarge. [/align]
Charlie
RE: Charlie b's layout - TMo - 09-08-2025
Looks like slicing an appropriate diameter dowel rod is in your future, Charlie! Cool stuff.
RE: Charlie b's layout - LiveSteamer - 09-08-2025
This project looks to be a good one. Can't wait to see it finished. I'm sure it will be superb like the rest of the layout is.
RE: Charlie b's layout - hillyard999 - 09-09-2025
Charlie,
thanks for sharing those great pictures!
and the newspaper article too.
especially like the last photo, showing the lathe & boiler/ belt drive.
interesting that in contrast the derrick/crane was hand cranked.
RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 09-09-2025
I had a few minutes to work on the quarry tonight.
Charlie
RE: Charlie b's layout - ngauger - 09-10-2025
That looks Great!!!
RE: Charlie b's layout - LiveSteamer - 09-10-2025
Looking great Charlie
RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 09-28-2025
I did some more detailing to the quarry and decided to set it in place. I am not going to get too carried away with this but it is a fairly good representation as is. I have plans to ballast the loading track and I have LPBs that need painted to make it look like it is really functioning.
Charlie
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RE: Charlie b's layout - TMo - 09-29-2025
Very cool! Looking forward to the finished scene!
RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 09-29-2025
(09-29-2025, 05:59 PM)TMo Wrote: Very cool! Looking forward to the finished scene!
The few details it will get are going to be tough because it is the only area on the layout that is a tough stretch to reach
Charlie
RE: Charlie b's layout - jim currie - 09-29-2025
Charlie, I have some tough areas to reach so I bought an overhead creeper it is a very handy thing for me, and the harbor fright ones are nit pricey.
Jim
RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 11-11-2025
HANDRAILS !!!!! I have a few locomotives, newer as well as older in need of some handrails. I think I found the answer so I will pass along what I have done so far.
Stanchions can be made from 23ga. pin nails. I found these on Ebay for less than 10 bucks. Yes, 6000 of them. These are only brass coated .They are available up to 2 inches long in soft steel
I flattened one end using a flattened center punch
Next I drilled a hole in the flattened area using my drill press and a small printed circuit board drill bit.
Next step is to thread them on music wire. It is stiffer than brass so I hope it will hold the shape better
The music wire was found on Ebay also. I think it was less than 10 bucks and 25 feet should do at least 10 locomotives. It is easy to bend the bottom like the old blue box locomotives and the new ones are straight so I think some CA will hold them in place
Tomorrow I will finish one for the front of an old BB trainmaster that is missing its handrail. More to come.
RE: Charlie b's layout - TMo - 11-12-2025
Brilliant - I love when we can get it over on the manufacturers who refuse to put out spare parts! Lots of patience and a set of magnifiers would also seem to come in handy. Are you planning on soldering or gluing the joints?
RE: Charlie b's layout - Charlie B - 01-24-2026
Well I did finish the missing hand rails on the trainmaster but forgot to take photos. I will do that when it gets above the too cold to go back out temperature.
I did grab a junk box car from my scrap box. Its just a cheap brand, I am not even sure who made it but I repaired a hole in the body, replaced the broken stirrups and installed a pair of trucks that I got from Tichy, I think they are in the neighborhood of 15 bucks for 10 pair but they roll freely and look OK. I had a couple doors in my stash too so now I have another car that will fit with late PC, early Conrail.
RE: Charlie b's layout - TMo - 01-24-2026
The mint greenies have always been a favorite of mine. Good to see than another one rides again!