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Rail-served incinerator - sailormatlac - 12-27-2011
Hi,
I'm starting to plan a small layout. The prototype location was beside a important municipal incinerator. It wasn't rail-served, but I thought it could be. I've read somewhere ashes are sometimes used for other purpose and that incinerator could be rail-served. However, in term of operation... I'm quite at loss.
Thanks,
Matt
Re: Rail-served incinerator - jwb - 12-27-2011
Fly ash is hauled by rail (in covered hoppers), but I think it's a byproduct of power plants, not incinerators.
Re: Rail-served incinerator - sailormatlac - 12-27-2011
jwb Wrote:Fly ash is hauled by rail (in covered hoppers), but I think it's a byproduct of power plants, not incinerators.
You're right, fly ash isn't from garbage. The only rail-served incinerator I've found on the web was an industrial one that only burnt specific products.
Matt
Re: Rail-served incinerator - MountainMan - 12-27-2011
You could always deliver mustard gas and nerve gas weapons to an incinerator for destruction, as is currently done at the Pueblo army Depot.
Re: Rail-served incinerator - Sumpter250 - 12-28-2011
MountainMan Wrote:You could always deliver mustard gas and nerve gas weapons to an incinerator for destruction, as is currently done at the Pueblo army Depot.
That,----- is an interesting concept.
Not knowing much about that, would there be any, or sufficient, "recyclables", after the gas was destroyed, that could make up an outbound shipment ?
Could there be rail business connected with "security measures", or with security personnel transport ( railbus, or gas electric,) to and from the site?
( I'm assuming this facility would not be located in a "downtown" area.
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Re: Rail-served incinerator - MountainMan - 12-28-2011
Nope - located well away from anybody.
Hmm....freight outbound? For starters, the metal artillery shells, gas containers and all of that are thoroughly decontaminated and then recycled. That would all be shipped back out to be melted down somewhere else. For another, the larger shipping containers that contain these items in transit in case of accidents or leaks would also be returned to various originating destinations.
![[Image: PeubleDepot.jpg]](http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr19/MountainMan01/PeubleDepot.jpg)
Note the interesting track layout at the Chemical Plant, as well as the tracks serving the original storage bunkers. Note also the turning wyes between the two facilities on the left and within the Chemical facility itself.
![[Image: PuebloChemicalDEpot.jpg]](http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr19/MountainMan01/PuebloChemicalDEpot.jpg)
Note that where tracks may have been paved over, the wyes remain. Turn this into a general high level hazmat facility, and it would be a treuly unique addition to any modern layout.
![[Image: PuebloCDII.jpg]](http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr19/MountainMan01/PuebloCDII.jpg)
Re: Rail-served incinerator - jwb - 12-28-2011
Nuclear weapons ready for dismantling were shipped by rail to a plant near Amarillo, TX up to about 1990. They were accompanied by armed guards, though I'm not sure exactly what they rode in.
Re: Rail-served incinerator - Ralph - 12-28-2011
I suppose most trash trains go to landfill sites instead of incinrators?
Ralph
Re: Rail-served incinerator - sailormatlac - 12-29-2011
Ralph Wrote:I suppose most trash trains go to landfill sites instead of incinrators?
Ralph
I completely let down that idea. I was thinking about what would go out from the incinerator.
Thinking about it, most incinerators where located directly in large cities and they dumped the ashes at a landfill nearby. Every little town and farms had their own landfill... When my brothers bought his farm ten years ago, he found three of theses trash dump in the woods, most coulb be dated back to the 50's and 60's.
Matt
Re: Rail-served incinerator - MountainMan - 12-29-2011
The ultimate trash industry would be modeled after the Japanese concept: the trash goes into a factory where it is treated, compressed and then encased in concrete , after which it is shipped to various places to serve as the base for sea walls and landfill such as airport runways.
Out here in Colorado, all of the trash goes to landfills, transfer points and recycle points by truck.
Re: Rail-served incinerator - sailormatlac - 01-01-2012
MountainMan Wrote:The ultimate trash industry would be modeled after the Japanese concept: the trash goes into a factory where it is treated, compressed and then encased in concrete , after which it is shipped to various places to serve as the base for sea walls and landfill such as airport runways.
Out here in Colorado, all of the trash goes to landfills, transfer points and recycle points by truck.
Isn't it the famous airport runway that was sinking in Tokyo Bay! ;-)
Matt
Re: Rail-served incinerator - MountainMan - 01-01-2012
sailormatlac Wrote:MountainMan Wrote:The ultimate trash industry would be modeled after the Japanese concept: the trash goes into a factory where it is treated, compressed and then encased in concrete , after which it is shipped to various places to serve as the base for sea walls and landfill such as airport runways.
Out here in Colorado, all of the trash goes to landfills, transfer points and recycle points by truck.
Isn't it the famous airport runway that was sinking in Tokyo Bay! ;-)
Matt
Yep... 8-)