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Reading a Timetable - sailormatlac - 09-24-2015

I'm actully in the process of making a timetable for my layout.

While reading old CN employees timetable, I see alphabetical code next to station names. Often it is "Y", "CKW", "Z", "P". What do they means? I know it is related to what was there.

From my knowledge about the Subdivision, I guess "Y" is related to a wye, "Z" to a passenger station and "P" probably to a platform. This is only educated guess. Unfortunately, I didn't find any legend in the timetable that could help me understand what these symbols mean.

Thanks!

Matt


Re: Reading a Timetable - BR60103 - 09-24-2015

Matt:
I looked at my 1983 TT and, while there were lots of letters, there were no explanations. Maybe they're in vol. 1 or 99.
The Trackside guide only uses 2 letters in their TTs -- Y is for a wye, X is a crossover between main tracks.


Re: Reading a Timetable - mountaingoatgreg - 09-24-2015

Here is what I found in the Consolidated Code of Operating Rules from 1967. The modern ETT have the symbols included in them.

A automatic interlocking
B bulletins general orders;
C continuous office;
F fuel
I manual interlocking
J junction
K standard clock
M railroad crossing protected by signals or gates;
O agent or operator;
P dispatchers telephone;
Q radio installation;
R train register;
T turntable or wye;
U railroad crossing not protected by signals or gates;
W water;
X crossover;
Y yard limits
Z track scales

The Canadian ones may be a little different.


Re: Reading a Timetable - sailormatlac - 09-24-2015

BR60103 Wrote:Matt:
I looked at my 1983 TT and, while there were lots of letters, there were no explanations. Maybe they're in vol. 1 or 99.
The Trackside guide only uses 2 letters in their TTs -- Y is for a wye, X is a crossover between main tracks.

Thanks David!

Funny they didn't care to put explanations while they explain carefully each rule and have a nice graphic signals legend.

Still guessing, I think "P" is for "passing track" while the "Z" could be related to a stub-ended siding.

I found this interesting link from Transport Canada.

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/railsafety/rules-tco167-162.htm

B = Operating bulletins
C = Cautionary limits
D = Trains or Transfers report departure to RTC
S = Special Derail
X = Crossover between main tracks
Y = Wye
* = See footnote
+ = Interlocking - see footnotes.

Another interesting link:

http://www.cnr-in-ontario.com/Acronyms/index.html?TimeTable.html

As stated by some folks, means vary widely from railroad to railroad. If anyone has the meaning for CNR post-steam era, let me know.

The following symbols can be found on the timetable I'm trying to read:

C, K, W, Z, P, Y.

Under a row called "Office Signals" I can read the following letters:

M, A, N, Y, F, C, G and V. I know for sure these stations still had the old depot still standing then, which means there was probably some sort of office there.

Matt


Re: Reading a Timetable - sailormatlac - 09-24-2015

mountaingoatgreg Wrote:The Canadian ones may be a little different.

True, in fact, it even varies from road to road... I've seen many charts contracdicting themselves. A 1962 CNR incomplete symbols list actually fit correctly with my knowledge of the subdivision.

It's almost alchemy gibberish for a neophyte!

Matt


Re: Reading a Timetable - n0rthcornice - 09-25-2015

Here's an interesting link from this website:http://www.railwaypages.com/timetables

http://www.railwaypages.com/files/169602/interpreting-employee-timetables-of-the-steam-era-ian-wilson-cn-lines-vol-9-no-4.pdf

The symbols are for steam but, I'm sure they wouldn't change all that much.


Re: Reading a Timetable - sailormatlac - 09-25-2015

n0rthcornice Wrote:Here's an interesting link from this website:http://www.railwaypages.com/timetables

http://www.railwaypages.com/files/169602/interpreting-employee-timetables-of-the-steam-era-ian-wilson-cn-lines-vol-9-no-4.pdf

The symbols are for steam but, I'm sure they wouldn't change all that much.

Thanks, it confirms what I found. There wasn't a lot of change from steam to diesel for CNR.

Matt