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I am repainting Bachmann 44-tonner to be a plant switcher in my cement plant, which ws a Lehigh Portland Cement Co plant. I found a few pictures of smaller GE boxcabs that they owned (never had a 44 tonner, oh well - mine does!) and even the B&W ones look like they very well could be this shade of blue. I also have to go throught he signs that have been posted in the Layout and Building section to see if there are any Lehigh Cement logos such as the ones shown applied to this loco so I can get decals made - unless someone knows about some decals that have already been produced.

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A line drawing on the site this picture comes from shows a smaller unit as just having the words "Lehigh Portland Cement Company" without the use of the logo. Also, this one appears awfully shiny considering a)it's in a cement plant and b)it's no longer even on rails - a least, I see no rails under there.It is a 70's picute, and I model the 50's, but the small 20 and 23 ton units were purchased in the late 30's. Seems reasonable for there to be a 44-tonner in 1956.

--Randy
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#2
That looks like the typical logo Lehigh slapped on everything from their product bags to invoices

I found a link with Ge 44tonner claimed to be an EX Lehigh, which still has the logo on the side. It's maryland based but still it's a Lehigh

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#3
Oops! :oops: I just posted an answer for you HERE.

Wayne
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#4
Randy;

Although this is a GE 45Ton - here's a Lehigh plant switcher located at the Mitchell, Indiana, cement plant. They keep her pretty darn clean!    
Ed
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#5
Tom: I found that one while searching, it's supposedly an 80 tonner, not 44.

Wayne: Yeah, I posted in both places, because not ALL of us frequent both.

FCIN: Yeah, that's the new logo, and probably a very recent repaint depending on when that photo was taken, the new logo is only a couple of years old

My original thought was to simply paint out the Pennsylvania nd PRR that are on my model, it's all black with yellow zebra stripes on the ends, and slap on sone Lehigh logos and claim they bought it second hand from the PRR. But it seems like all their other small switchers they bought new. Lacking definitive answers, and given they didn;t seem to have any 44 tonners anyway, I guess I'll go for a close blue and try to find a good shot of the logos that I can have made up on decal paper. Luckily the letters are blue and not white, since I have no idea where I could get my hands on one of those old Alps printers. Nice thing on the 80 tonner, no number boards. As small as the ones are on the Bachmann 44 tonner, I don't see how I could get them in there. Also why my Stewart F7 set has remained unnumbered all this time. I do need to do one unique thing, below the logo/name on the side of the cab (or maybe above) I need to put someone's name, it's a tribute to a fellow modeler who up and GAVE me a complete Walther's Valley Cement plant and wouldn't even accept compensation for what had to be considerable shipping (it's fully built). So I decided I would get some sort of loco to be a plant switcher and it would get named after him - sure to attract at least some attention by visitors which will give me the opportunity to tell them the story - and how awesome the people are in this hobby.

--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad of the 1950's in HO

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rrinker Wrote:....I found that one while searching, it's supposedly an 80 tonner, not 44.

..... Nice thing on the 80 tonner, no number boards. As small as the ones are on the Bachmann 44 tonner, I don't see how I could get them in there. Also why my Stewart F7 set has remained unnumbered all this time. ......

Randy, an 80 tonner is quite a bit different, size-wise, at least:
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For a 44 tonner, or your F7, any decent decal set should include numberboard numerals in sizes to fit most locos - the F7 for sure, but likely the 44 tonner, too.

Wayne
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#7
Randy, can you tell me where you found the picture? I have a couple of MDC critters just begging to bashed into a pair of small boxcabs.

Tom
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#8
You can find tons of stuff here: http://sbiii.com/jfcageir/ageir.html

It's mostly about the Alco/GE/IR diesels but it also covers other things like the small GE boxcabs.

--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad of the 1950's in HO

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#9
Thank you, sir!

Tom
Life is simple - Eat, Drink, Play with trains

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#10
Randy, how long will your 44 tonner have been in service? I'm not talking about how long on the layout, but how long in service are you modeling? The longer it has been in service since the last paint job, the more the paint will have faded, and the more cement dust it will have picked up. Before the BNSF merger, the blue & yellow freight units would be bright, shiny, dark blue and bright yellow. A couple of years or less out of the paint shop and the paint turned "chalky" with the blue fading to something closer to a flat "Big Sky" blue, and the yellow fading to a yellowish cream color. I suspect the paint used in the 1950's and before is not as resistant to fading as the new stuff.
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#11
I'm going to say fairly new. If I go for the idea that the cement company bought it new, it would be maybe 5-6 years old. If I go with the idea that they bought it used from the PRR, it would only be in cement service a year or two. But it would have been all dirtied up by PRR service and just have a realtively shiny spot where the Pennsylvania lettering was painted out. I'm leaning more towards the idea that it was picked up new by the cement company, even thought he all-time 44-tonner roster here: http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE_44Ton.HTML doesn;t show they ever did buy any new.
I've never weathered anything, outside of spraying freight car trucks grimy black, so this should be interesting.

--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad of the 1950's in HO

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#12
Since it is fairly new, I would not fade the paint much, but it would get covered with cement dust fairly quickly and then streak like the sides of that boxcab with the first rain.
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#13
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They are very easy to use & look great. You can do just a little or alot depending on your needs.
Andy Jackson
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#14
I've seen their stuff demonstrated at a train show. It always looks easy when someone who knows what they are doing does it. Problem is, they don't have a cement. Ash and grimy grey, and based on the product images the ash color looks most like cement color. I'll have to see it in person, I don;t run some high end professionally calibrated monitor here.
I look at this as half experiment, half adventure. If it doesn't come out looking nice I cna always strip it and paint again. I need some decal practice too.

--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad of the 1950's in HO

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