Sumpter250 Wrote:ezdays wrote: " I’d have probably close to 2,000 scale feet to chain link fence to build."
Don That's only Twelve Feet, Six Inches of Nscale chain link fence.
In Horribly Oversised scale that would be Twentythree Feet !!!! The hard part is finding a Tulle with a fine enough weave, as to produce a chain link that would look good in N scale.
Put it another way, that 126 inches of fence. At about an inch a day, that comes close to six months to build.....
I do have a roll of tulle "shimmer" that would work in N scale. It has a tight enough crisscross, and has a light gray glisten to it so I wouldn't even have to paint it. Not only that, but it is 25 yards long so I wouldn't even have any seams. What's the problem you say? Trying to cut a 3/4" strip that is twelve feet, six inches long that stays consistently wide. :cry: I've tried several things and I'm not out of ideas yet so there is still a chance I can do it. If not, the RR security force can keep things under control.
Don (ezdays) Day
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Don there is a company that makes excellent chain link with barb wire on top. I will try to find the info and post a pic of it from my layout tomorrow, too tired tonight. I just had to hike up my driveway (1/4 mile long and climbs about 200 feet in elevation) in an ice storm. My one lung with COPD is telling me to go to bed!
Mike
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Tyson Rayles Wrote:Don there is a company that makes excellent chain link with barb wire on top. I will try to find the info and post a pic of it from my layout tomorrow, too tired tonight. I just had to hike up my driveway (1/4 mile long and climbs about 200 feet in elevation) in an ice storm. My one lung with COPD is telling me to go to bed!
Thank you kind sir, I hadn't thought of getting ready-made fencing. Although I have the tulle, all I have is visions of trying to cut it straight and then making a good 12' of polls and stringers out of wire. Adding barbed wire was going to be yet another challenge. Besides, the tulle is so fragile that any LPB with a pair of sharp scissors could easily cut through it.
Don (ezdays) Day
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In the 2013 Walthers catalog on page 415 is Gold Medal Models. Part #304-1601 is with gates and part # 304-1602 is without gates. Either way you get 240 scale feet. It is stainless steel so if you hit it with some dull-cote your are done. And they practically give it away at $18.00 . If you go to Trainmasters.com they had it for $14.95. Tex-n-Rails might be another good choice to save a buck. It should be good enough to keep your gringo LBP's from escaping to Mexico!
Mike
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Tyson Rayles Wrote:In the 2013 Walthers catalog on page 415 is Gold Medal Models. Part #304-1601 is with gates and part # 304-1602 is without gates. Either way you get 240 scale feet. It is stainless steel so if you hit it with some dull-cote your are done. And they practically give it away at $18.00 . If you go to Trainmasters.com they had it for $14.95. Tex-n-Rails might be another good choice to save a buck. It should be good enough to keep your gringo LBP's from escaping to Mexico!
Thank you again my friend, great solution. I'm looking at a something that will cost under $100, that would take days, nay, weeks for me to do my way.
I'll look around now that I know what to look for, but definitely look to save a buck (or four) if I can.
And you're right. While most of the world wants to sneak in under the fence, my LPB's try to get out. I think it's because I haven't fed them in a while....
Don (ezdays) Day
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Tyson Rayles Wrote:Yeah Don feeding them would help. Wouldn't hurt to pay them either.
Oh come on, I've been paying them minimum wages for years now ..... Uh, you do know that in my world, we are not bound by federal law and have no local government to make laws, so, on my layout the minimum wages are still zero. :o I do provide them a place to relax and sleep though, at no extra charge and occasionally I find that someone has taken a nibble out of a sandwich that I've left on my workbench.
Don (ezdays) Day
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Tyson Rayles Wrote:Wow, I had no idea you were spoiling them like that!
No LPB has it better, even though their living quarters are communal. As you can see in the photo, I've even provided them with some recreation as noted by the see-saw in the lower corner. And, just to show you that I'm not heartless, I've even provided a place for their pets and other assorted animals.
BTW, I checked out some of the ready-made fencing, great idea, I'm not sure I can scratchbuild something that would look as good, but I do have one other thing in mind before I decide. I'd feel defeated if I didn't at least try first. Besides, scratchbuilding is not only more rewarding, but it's a lot cheaper too...
Don (ezdays) Day
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ezdays Wrote:Besides, scratchbuilding is not only more rewarding, but it's a lot cheaper too...
I knew we had something in common !!
We always learn far more from our own mistakes, than we will ever learn from another's advice.
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I agree that it can be more rewarding and cheaper but I pretty much suck at it so if I can't bash it then I look for a commercial product at a reasonable price.
Mike
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Tyson Rayles Wrote:I agree that it can be more rewarding and cheaper but I pretty much suck at it so if I can't bash it then I look for a commercial product at a reasonable price.
You are right, scratchbuilding something like this can be very labor intensive and not turn out nearly as good as ready-made.
e-paw Wrote:looking good Don.
Thanks, you know after one spends a lot of time building something, you kind of get tired of seeing it and it doesn't look no where as good as it looks to someone else. At least, that's what I hope is happening.
Don (ezdays) Day
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There's an old saying ( no, not an "old" person " :o saying something" )
"Familiarity breeds contempt"
By the time you're finished with a model, you have become too familiar with it, and it doesn't look as good as you first thought.
The fourth or fifth glance, picks out all the defects, or creates the question; why did I do it that way?
"We always learn more................................................"
We always learn far more from our own mistakes, than we will ever learn from another's advice.
The greatest place to live life, is on the sharp leading edge of a learning curve.
Lead me not into temptation.....I can find it myself!