ok oppinion time guys the lattice under the porches in the photos do you think that the 2 by 4 frame is too big should i redo it with 1 by 4's?
jim

the thingon the right in photo is the cellar entrance.

Looks good, Jim, although the thickness isn't apparent in the photos. If you're concerned about it, then you should change it. One of the drawbacks of using 1" thick material in HO is that, while it looks right, it's not particularly stable - this fence at V.A. Wagner Lumber is made from styrene 1"x10" and it's warped more than a real wooden fence would have.


If you change it for 1"x4", you can always put 2"x4", painted dark grey, on the rear side for added strength, or it may be possible to simply flip the entire lattice assembly, then add the 1" material to the "new" front.

Wayne

doctorwayne Wrote:Looks good, Jim, although the thickness isn't apparent in the photos. If you're concerned about it, then you should change it. One of the drawbacks of using 1" thick material in HO is that, while it looks right, it's not particularly stable - this fence at V.A. Wagner Lumber is made from styrene 1"x10" and it's warped more than a real wooden fence would have.


If you change it for 1"x4", you can always put 2"x4", painted dark grey, on the rear side for added strength, or it may be possible to simply flip the entire lattice assembly, then add the 1" material to the "new" front.

Wayne

Doc that was my thought on the 1by4 too thin so just fliping the thing over and adding the 1by4 is the best option

Jim, from the photos, it looks fine. But like DocWayne said, if it bothers you, then change it. The suggestion of adding it on the other side is a good and simple method. But still, just from the photos, it looks really good.

just a quick update the bardgeboards are starting to go on i slaped a fast paint job just to show them better , will put better pics on later tomorrow.
jim

jim currie Wrote:the thingon the right in photo is the cellar entrance.

I remember those....even the wood door(s), on the house I grew up in, my Grandparents' homes, and the house I lived in in Maine ( that one was steel, and had a steel door ). Very nice touch, not too often seen these days. The lattice work, and the barge boards look great !

The house I grew up in, the Methodist Parsonage in Wayne, PA, built around 1910, had one of those out side entrances to the cellar, too, along with a stairway down from the kitchen. The sides were stone, like the first floor of the house (the second floor was wood shingles,) and the doors were wood, with a wood 2x6 that sat in two "U"-channels "barring the doors" and keeping them secure from unauthorized entry from the outside.

thanks pete here is the way i made the barge boards the thing in the upper left is a paper punch the white thing next to it is a spacer that is taped to the punch then a scale 2 by 12 is run through it after that a scale 2 by 2 is glued on making the board in the second photo ( end up being a bit in the fragile as i found out broke off a corner ) the lattice is simply a sheet of aluminum countour mesh cut out and framed and painted white .
jim

The paper cutter idea is terrific! And those fancy boards for the trimwork came out great. Another technique to add to the reportoire.

Wow, that house looks fantastic. I know I am a little late to chime in, but I agree with Dr Wayne's assessment of the 2x4 vs 1x4. Sometimes you have to make things a little bigger than scale in order to reasonable build something, or to make it hold up in a 1:1 world. I'd much rather have grab irons be a little think and not break off than to have them scale size and break every time I sneeze

Paper punch !!!
I can clearly see that I need to make another trip to the craft store for "tools" !
How many times, I've walked past that area of the store, and never thought for a minute that the decorative paper punches could be use to make "decorative house trim".

It is certainly an effective method, and looks fantastic.

thanks for the comments though it looks like the sand is allmost run out for finishing it before the deadline.
jim

Well Jim, it looks dadburn terrific right now, so finishing before the deadline doesn't really matter. I mean, what is left to do? Great looking build, and as I said with Steamtrains' project, another grand addition to a layout, and something to be proud of!

That sure is coming out nice.
Maybe someone can help nme though. When was the Victorian era? That house looks pre-Civil War.
I've been wrong before...probably am now.