Scifi fan Wrote:I don't mean 44 inches as in the guage; I mean 44 inches as in the length of the tram.
You need to read the responses more carefully.
I said 44 inch cars and 7.5 inch gauge.
Tyson Rayles Wrote:Scifi fan Wrote:I don't mean 44 inches as in the guage; I mean 44 inches as in the length of the tram.
You need to read the responses more carefully. I said 44 inch cars and 7.5 inch gauge.
I have a feeling that he doesn't know the difference. Nothing wrong with that, but he needs to let us know a bit better what he wants. Like Pete says, show us a picture of what you want. The other thing is, is it a 44" train, or a 44" car?
An Indie film is one produced by people who are not part of the big companies, and, while indies are usually low budget, they sometimes are not - George Lucas' franchise is an indie project, and so is Avatar.
Most people in the film business prefer miniatures to CGI, because miniatures look better.
I want to shoot carriages passing by. Some of those carriages will be for cargo, and others will be for people. But I won't necessarily want to film the interior. But they should be of a minimum size so they will look realistic on film - the larger the models, the more realistic they will look. HO should be big enough, but I'll have to speak to my film crew about that.
Tyson Rayles Wrote:Scifi fan Wrote:I don't mean 44 inches as in the guage; I mean 44 inches as in the length of the tram.
You need to read the responses more carefully. I said 44 inch cars and 7.5 inch gauge.
My apologies - I'm totally new. I am referring to 44 inch carriage, the sort that's pulled by the train. Miniatures of those sizes look pretty good on film.
No problem, I guessing you are in Europe? Terms like trams and carriages ( freight cars ) aren't used here much on this side of the pond and that be making it harder for us to help figure out what it is you are trying to do.
Hello all,
Tyson beat me to the translation of the Canadian/UK-ish rail terms.
1. How much of a budget are you locked into
2. What time frame do you need it done in?(school/collage project?)
3. Is there a specific era you are trying model or is it futuristic?
A good film to watch to see how NYC subway works both under ground and above is called Warriors a good action film as well.
The train miniatures would, of course, just be one of several sets, but, for the trains and rails and all, I can spend a few thousand - the thing now is to get a team together just for the sets, but it's slowly happening. I have no time frame, and my film project will take years of pre-production - don't forget Disney's Snow White, the first commercial animated film, took seven years to make, and that was during the Depression.
This is a futuristic movie, which is why I would prefer NY-style trams.
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Is something like this what you have in mind?
Hi scifi,
Where are you located? There are lots of Canadians here, and most larger centres have active modeling groups.
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Generally, Canadian terms follow US norms, rather than European. Hence the confusion over carriages (passenger cars), wagons (freight cars), and so on. Generally, subways are underground (although many have above ground portions), while trams are "streetcars" like Toronto's "Red Rockets".
Hope that helps.
Andrew
PS Welcome!
Thanks for the welcome, Andrew. I live in Vancouver, and I used to work in Ottawa.
I want something that looks like an underground passenger car, like the one you see in NY - those look more futuristic. The Walthers look good, but I will need to gather a team.Do you know any clubs in my province?
scifi fan,
I have a handy scale converter program that I downloaded from Model Railroad Hobbyist(a free e-magazine)
any way 44" in F scale(better known as 1:120.3) comes close to 74' and 5" long where as in O scale 44" converts to 174' . looks like you want some Garden scale equipment may have to custom build them yourself(not that hard to do). F is one of many scales that run on G gauge track. Maybe some where near you you may find some one who could assist you with this, I am in Ohio and don't travel much, you did come to a good place to get answers to questions you may want to check into the MRH site as well.
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By the way welcome to the Gauge Big Blue
The larger scale would be better suited to filming the interior of the train/subway cars.
Are you familiar with CNC equipment? There is a group here in Columbus Ohio called the Idea foundry they are a collection of artists and fabricators who build stuff for fun and sometimes as business.
Thanks for the welcome.
I don't think I would need to film the interior - but I'll be gathering a writer's group to go over that. Basically, I want to show that's how people in a space station get from one place to the other - it's too small for cars or bikes, but trains would be useful.