I streamlined the track plan again at Jérôme's suggestion. He recalled the yard bypass track was added at a time when the ladder didn't connect with it. It never was useful and took lots of place and became redundant when the ladder was connected. As a conductor, he didn't see issue about getting rid of this useless track. I checkup old pictures of Limoilou yard before the 1976 rearrangement and it never existed. So I disposed of it with a big smile, happy to get more place for the caboose track, less turnouts to purchase and 18 inches more of lenght on each yard tracks! Oh, and more money in my pocket... to spend it all on acquiring more Atlas RS-11 for my kitbash project... I know, it's a shame to trash beautiful DW&P and CV RS11 in wet noodle, but life is life!



Honestly, when I mocked up the track plan last thursday, I was pretty sure I would have lots of place near the highway overpass to put a CN office shed between the main line and the engine service track. Pfff! All in all, it won't fit at all... I'm always questionning the interlocking tower that standed near that spot... It's cute, but feels out of place. A tool box or a small section house may be the best bet there.

I'm also wondering if I'll mock up Hedleyville Jct behing the wall to represent the Murray Bay Sub interchange. It would be the best place to put the CNR office / or ex-QRL&PCo station there. Lots of question... that can only be resolved in real-time on the layout.

BTW, I got the confirmation Saint-Sacrement Station was initially called Bell's Road until Palace Station closed down in 1976. Then it was renamed Saint-Sacrement according to the similarly named avenue passing by. From what I learned, St-Sacrement Avenue was called Bell's Road until 1943. Funny, in Quebec City, very old country roads habitually have French and/or saint names but this one was among a few exceptions as it was traced on Bell brothers property in the early 19th century. Thus, my CPR piggyback/freight station will be called Bell's Road.

Here's some pictures of Bell's Road freight station.



I don't like the brick basement. It looks wrong to me and I'll try to make it in concrete just like the rest of the building. It will also help to hide the obvious DPM heritage. Image was photoshopped.



What is missing is a light yellow 1965 custom convertible Pontiac Parisienne near the station to represent my paternal grandfather, a sale person, that was a regular client of CPR freight station to get his dry goods.

Matt

Question:

I'm looking for pictures of CNR trackside strutures. On Insurance maps, I see rows of three of four wood sheds about 10' x 20' along the track in the middle of nowhere. I suspect they are section house, speeder shed and tool shed, what could they be... And what would they look?

I'd like to add these structures to the layout. Most of them were still standing in Quebec City area until 1976-1978 when everything including station, roundhouse, car shops and ancilliry structures were torn down when tracks were modified and passenger services discontinued. Any CNR-related pictures would be welcomed to have a rough idea.

Matt

Matt:
I don't know if the Rly would put speeder sheds out in "the middle of nowhere". They'd usually be where the crew could reach them from home, unless there was an overnight stay for some reason.
Speeder sheds & offices were usually the simplest shed form -- rectangular with the roof slanted to the back, doors big enough for the speeder, maybe a door and window for an office. The ones I grew up with had wooden rails to the track and a platform inside the track with two quarter-circle arcs where the wheels were turned.

Kanamodel makes kits for CN and CP.

BR60103 Wrote:Matt:
I don't know if the Rly would put speeder sheds out in "the middle of nowhere". They'd usually be where the crew could reach them from home, unless there was an overnight stay for some reason.
Speeder sheds & offices were usually the simplest shed form -- rectangular with the roof slanted to the back, doors big enough for the speeder, maybe a door and window for an office. The ones I grew up with had wooden rails to the track and a platform inside the track with two quarter-circle arcs where the wheels were turned.

Kanamodel makes kits for CN and CP.

David,

"middle of nowhere" is a little too much. In fact they were located about 500 ft from the yard, but no easy access road and a train overpass had to be crossed to get access to them...

Yep, I know the Kanamodel, I was thinking about following them as much as I can.

I guess I'll follow your indications otherwise, making 10' x 20' sheds with slanted roof. BTW, what were standard colors for CN sheds in the 60s and 70s. I've seen a few white asbestos cladded shed with black trims and also white wood siding with grey trim. Was it standard?

Thank you!

Matt

I think the white with gray came in after the wet noodle. Before that, it was freight car red for the main building and cream for the window trim. I say this only as someone who railfanned CV in the 1960s and occasionally got as far as Montreal and Sherbrooke.

jwb Wrote:I think the white with gray came in after the wet noodle. Before that, it was freight car red for the main building and cream for the window trim. I say this only as someone who railfanned CV in the 1960s and occasionally got as far as Montreal and Sherbrooke.

Thanks JWB, what you say is consistent with old pictures I've seen so far. I'll go with that paint scheme (even if it is far less attractive than the red/cream one).

Matt

Here's the CN depot in Prince George, BC in 1982. White with gray it looks like.

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Well, that's exactly the same colors I've seen on a small railway asbestos-clad CN office. I'll go for it.

Matt

Started to build a set of four sheds out of a cereal box tonight. Shouldn't be long to complete them: a tool shed, a heated shelter / tool shed and two sheds similar to a speeder shed (large door and small door). According to insurance maps, 3 were 8'x16' and one was 6' x 12'.

Matt

Did some work on Bell's Road station today. Mainly weathering and touch up. Rood and trims need to be completed before final weathering.

I covered the brick foundation with glazing putty to mimick a concrete foundation. After some careful sanding and repainting I'm quite satisfied with the result.









Some reference picture: Farnham Station on ex-CPR now MMA. http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/st...nham04.jpg

Matt

Matt, I did use this buildings some times but avoided them most of the time because I could imagine to use them as is only. Your work demonstrates how to used them as base for kit bashing too. You have opened a new can of worms for us. Thank you!

Fine, straight-lined modeling job. Very nice to see also for me as an old time modeler. Congratulation, Matt!

That came out great!

I can see a few N scale buildings getting that treatment.It changes the whole character of the building.

Thanks guys!

DPM structures should always be considered kitbashing material. LIke Walthers structures, htey are victim of their success. If you don't modify them a little bit, you get that dejà vu feeling like Atlas Passenger Station and tower or old Revell kits from the 50s! ;-)

@Reinhard: Once you start shuffling and mixing parts together, you can have nice surprises! I had more fun working with them than DPM structural wall parts (which are costly nowadays compared to the building kits - also, I feel they are out of scale most of the time).

Decided to kill time before Christmas by building 3 CN trackside sheds.

They are made out of cardboard and oatmeal box. Tar paper roofing with masking tape. They will need some weathering before going on the layout. I'll need two other ones, smaller. Windows are Tichy, doors are laminated paper. Smoke stack is made out of a Q-Tip stick... Never thought before they could be a good source of scale pipes.













Matt