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Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-05-2009
Heres a picture I found a few years back------ considering few business's even put decorations on their windows anymore , at least not in Las Vegas . Matter of fact it's been years since the city even put up garlands on the street lights, I thought this might be interesting as to how things USED to be. Pretty fancy !!
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-05-2009
Now I'll show you what I did with this idea on the Toole Springs & Western several Christmas back. some of you may know the Toole Springs---It belonged to Frank Burke, was built by him, Lynn Austin & the S.N.O. B. crew. SNOB -- Southern Nevada Operating Brotherhood -- a nonclub -club--sort of. Sadly both Frank & the railroad are gone now. It was featured twice in Model Railroad Craftsman-- both times being the cover story.
Frank & I decided to decorate the Bank on the layout as a surprise for the SNOBS at our annual Christmas party, not knowing at the time that it would be Franks Last Christmas. Anyway -- here are some pics of the results.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-05-2009
Ok Now the rest of them.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - TrainNut - 06-05-2009
Very nicely done. Yours looks better than the real thing.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - ngauger - 06-06-2009
Great Stuff!!
Christmas in June
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Ralph - 06-06-2009
That's terrific! Well done and very festive!
Ralph
Re: Christmas anyone ? - shaygetz - 06-06-2009
Excellent
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-06-2009
Thanks everybody. Frank & I had fun doing it.
The nut cracker soldiers, reindeer & Santas Sleigh were all made from decals or Christmas card art ( can't remember which) reduced to proper size at Kinkos & then glued to balsa wood, a little colored ink on the edges to add depth, some brass runners for the sled & presto --- done.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - eightyeightfan1 - 06-06-2009
Nice.
With alll the stuff that company puts up...Looks like they have to start in July.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-07-2009
eightyeightfan1 Wrote:Nice.
With alll the stuff that company puts up...Looks like they have to start in July.
OK---- so how much time is 5 months in 1/87 scale?
Took me about a day & a half including the copy stuff. 
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-13-2009
Dave Harris sctchbld Wrote:eightyeightfan1 Wrote:Nice.
With alll the stuff that company puts up...Looks like they have to start in July.
OK---- so how much time is 5 months in 1/87 scale?
What?? ---- no math whiz willing to tackle scale time?
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Steamtrains - 06-13-2009
OK..OK....5 months in "HO time" is 1.7 days......
Unfortunately time is not "scalable". Somebody here with "fast clock" experience can chime in with what they consider a day to be in "fast clock" time.....
Re: Christmas anyone ? - TCWORLD - 06-13-2009
I've always wondered about scaleing Time. In theory it would make speeds out of scale. But then of course I've just Quashed my own theory by remembering the Distance = Speed x Time, so if you scale the distance, you must have to scale the Time by the same amount for speeds to stay constant. So 5 months would be about 40 hours in HO gauge time.
The problem is not scaling time, you just have a clock that counts 87x faster than a normal clock (Hence "Fast Clock"), obviously thats for HO, If you were doing the same for N, it would count 160x fater than a normal clock (or 150x, or 144x depending on which standard of N you use). The problem comes with the fact that Gravity cannot be scaled, so when you shunt, if say you use gravity shunting (sidings sloping down to the buffers), then it will not be in scale as the train wouldn't accellerate as fast.
OF course I may be whittering nonsense, but that is how I've understood the scale aspects of time.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-13-2009
Steamtrains Wrote:OK..OK....5 months in "HO time" is 1.7 days......
Unfortunately time is not "scalable". Somebody here with "fast clock" experience can chime in with what they consider a day to be in "fast clock" time.....
How about that!! I guess then I came pretty close then.
Re: Christmas anyone ? - Dave Harris sctchbld - 06-13-2009
TCWORLD Wrote:I've always wondered about scaleing Time. In theory it would make speeds out of scale. But then of course I've just Quashed my own theory by remembering the Distance = Speed x Time, so if you scale the distance, you must have to scale the Time by the same amount for speeds to stay constant. So 5 months would be about 40 hours in HO gauge time.
The problem is not scaling time, you just have a clock that counts 87x faster than a normal clock (Hence "Fast Clock"), obviously thats for HO, If you were doing the same for N, it would count 160x fater than a normal clock (or 150x, or 144x depending on which standard of N you use). The problem comes with the fact that Gravity cannot be scaled, so when you shunt, if say you use gravity shunting (sidings sloping down to the buffers), then it will not be in scale as the train wouldn't accellerate as fast.
OF course I may be whittering nonsense, but that is how I've understood the scale aspects of time.
You are correct ------ Time is not really scaleable .
In fact some folks can't even MODEL it correct---George Selios is an excellent example of that.
George IS a FANTASTIC modeler-- of that there is NO doubt --- BUT ---- BUT --- His Franklin & South Manchester RR is set IN the middle of the depression , yet every piece in the railroad, is completely decrepit & rundown. Prior to the depression things would have been maintained & kept up --- a period of 3-4 years would not have been enough for every thing to fall apart as his RR depicts.
We eccept this in his & others modeling because we realize that the depression was a tough time & this type of depiction satisfies our feeling of the despair of the time.