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Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-18-2011
post 1
Mantua back in the 50's made a Reading Class P7sa. There were 4 of them. The only non-camelback Atlantics they owned. They were built from the Reading type C1 class 4-4-4. These were made by the Reading in their shop between 1913 and 1915. Now i am backdating my P7sa to a C1. Let's see how it comes out.
Please no laughing. If you have to - - - Ok do it.
frank
Here is what it will look exactly like when done. cough, cough, cough, gough ! - - - Just clearing my throat.
Here is how it looks at the start.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-18-2011
post 2
Here is what it looked like when I got it,
frank
I was playing around with some ideas.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-18-2011
post 3
Here is where it is today. still playing around.
Spoked trucks for Rivarossi 4-6-0.
New front pilot Selley
New smoke stack selley
With original tender
A little more work, with Mantua tender.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - BR60103 - 09-18-2011
I won't laugh; I like 4-4-4s.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - e-paw - 09-18-2011
Looks good so far
, Your off to a good start. I'll suggest that you may want to try using the rivet decals available from Mirco-Mark <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.micromark.com/HO-scale-decals-with-raised-3D-rivets-and-other-surface-details,9968.html">http://www.micromark.com/HO-scale-decal ... ,9968.html</a><!-- m --> as to emboss rivets on a factory model would be extremely difficult. I do want to see how you add the boiler bands and other details to the model also. That triangular ash pan is a distinctive detail on the prototype, How are you going to handle that too? Good luck with it.. 
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-19-2011
post 6
* Steve ; I noticed that detail on both Reading and D&H locomotives. I think it alows the ashes to dunp away from center of the track . Only problum I see is getting the thing to stick to the painted and cast metal ashpan of the mantua loco.
frank
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-19-2011
post 7
I will order those decals for rivets.
frank
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - modelsof1900 - 09-20-2011
A good project, Frank! A 4-4-4 is a real runner for passenger service and this loco will give a good eye-catcher after finishing, I think.
Wish you endurance and success!
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 09-28-2011
A little update ;
a few more photos. each side.
frank
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - Steamtrains - 09-28-2011
She's coming along nicely....I'll be waiting with "bated breath"...(What does that mean..??) :oops:
What type of firebox does it have..?? It's HUGE..!!
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - modelsof1900 - 09-30-2011
This firebox type is a Wootten firebox, very wide and shallow and having a curved crown sheet of large radius, used for anthracite coal burning locomotives which require a large grate area - from Locomotive Cyclopedia 1925.
Anthracite coal must lay in a very thin layer on grate in order to get an intensive and hot burning fire so these engines need this extra large grate. The Reading was one of these railroads which used (or owned ?) rich anthracite coal fields.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - Russ Bellinis - 09-30-2011
I think most of the coal in Pennsylvania was anthracite, so a lot of the railroads that operated in Western Penn. burned anthracite.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - Sumpter250 - 10-01-2011
Have fun with the "outside ash door" ( hanging from the ash pan, on the fireman side in your photo). I would check to see if there are photos of both sides of that loco, I'm not sure if the ash doors were on both sides, or only one.
The Delaware and Hudson had a lot of locos with the wootten firebox, for the same reason, Anthracite.
Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - Russ Bellinis - 10-01-2011
There is a guy on Model Railroad Hobbyist forum that has been scratch-bashing D&H steam. The ash pans are on both sides of the firebox. He made up molds to cast the ashpans out of resin.
The scrath-bash starts on page 3 of the blog. If I remember correctly he is using Bachmann 2-8-0 running gear and scratch building the boiler, firebox, and ash pans, with other commercial detail castings. I don't remember if he is using the Bachmann cab or building his own.
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Re: Reading P7sa back to a C1 - toptrain - 10-03-2011
Russ Bellinis Wrote:There is a guy on Model Railroad Hobbyist forum that has been scratch-bashing D&H steam. The ash pans are on both sides of the firebox. He made up molds to cast the ashpans out of resin.
The scrath-bash starts on page 3 of the blog. If I remember correctly he is using Bachmann 2-8-0 running gear and scratch building the boiler, firebox, and ash pans, with other commercial detail castings. I don't remember if he is using the Bachmann cab or building his own.
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My ash pans need some additions. If I do them all, this engine may look as weard as some D&H engines. This engine had 4 ash drops. I am going to do just 1 on each side, then see how it looks. The other 2 , front, and back,will waite. Also this is the last thing I will do to this loco. Is just attachments of detail under the ashpan.
frank