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Amtrak X995 Wrote:hi

perhaps this helps
AMTRAK 685 750KW/HEP ST LOUIS 1953 AMT 1291, 1300; USA 89637 / BLT AS KITCHEN CAR
AMTRAK 686 750KW/HEP ST LOUIS 1953 AMT 1292, 1304; USA 89657/BLT AS A KITCHEN CAR
AMTRAK 687 750KW/HEP ST LOUIS 1953 AMT 1293, 1305; USA 89661 / BLT AS KITCHEN CAR
AMTRAK 688 750KW/HEP ST LOUIS 1953 AMT 1294, 1306; USA 89670 / BLT AS KITCHEN CAR
AMTRAK 689 750KW/HEP ST LOUIS 1953 AMT 1295, 1307; USA 89625 / BLT AS KITCHEN CAR
AMTRAK 690 750KW/HEP P-S 1942 AMT 1297; AUTOLINER (UP) 300 / BUILT AS A COACH
AMTRAK 691 750KW/HEP P-S 1942 AMT 1298; AUTOLINER (UP) 301 / BUILT AS A COACH
AMTRAK 692 750KW/HEP P-S 1942 AMT 1299; AUTOLINER (UP) 302 / BUILT AS A COACH
AMTRAK 693 500KW/HEP ACF 1947 PC 9151--BUILT FROM BAGGAGE CAR NYC 9151
AMTRAK 694 500KW/HEP ACF 1947 PC 9166--BUILT FROM BAGGAGE CAR NYC 9166
AMTRAK 695 500KW/HEP ACF 1947 PC 9170--BUILT FROM BAGGAGE CAR NYC 9170
AMTRAK 696 500KW/HEP ACF 1947 PC 9165--BUILT FROM BAGGAGE CAR NYC 9165

and
http://www.hebners.net/amtrak/amtHEP.html

i think, you startet out with the uncommon hep cars, they used together with the GG1. Most pictures i found, they show the baggage or the ex-citchen cars.

Such a car we need, too, butno time yet to biult one (all car and loco re-builts i disregarded for the layout....)

Thanks for the roster Info. Its becoming difficult to track down exactly which cars are what, especially with those PC cars, i didn't know which they where (I have an Amtrak roster book but it lists the HEP cars in the 1200 series and doesn't separate them from the other Baggage cars).

That said, I do indeed have a 50' Baggage car kit (built by Train Station Products), which would be the former US Army Kitchen cars listed above. The problem with this kit is that it is $50 for the kit, and you don't get all the parts you need to finish the model.

Also, good photographs of the roof of the 50' types are nearly impossible to get. From what I've seen in quick glimpses on my DVDs, there is an open square housing roughly a quarter of the length of the car in from each side. I can only assume these are exhaust area,s but there are few pictures clear enough for me to see what they are, and my 3D image software has failed to help me accurately measure this exhaust area.

The other problem is, regular 50' baggage cars are also very common (not all got rebuilt into HEP cars). Though I originally planned to build this into a HEP car, I might not, and I may build it as the intended baggage car. If I can find one more 50' baggage car kit, then I'll probably convert that into a HEP car.

For future reference, the proper Brass Car Side for the HEP car is the "UP Challenger 44 Seat Coach". Might be putting off the car building, but I would order the sides now anyway. It appears that the company phases the sides in and out. Get them while they are available.
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