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jwb Wrote:I'm still finding prints from a ride I took on NJDOT in May 1981, and I'm almost sure I have the GP7 that was on the other end of this train someplace.
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This train had the CR GP38-2 you see on one end and an ex CNJ GP7P on the other. The only easy part of doing this train, though, would be the GP38-2, which is a straight Atlas Trainman late version! I think the cars may be ex-Reading, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have better info?


There is almost certainly a GP7P on the other end providing train heat/power. I have a photo of CR GP38-2 8233 pulling a nearly identical train with a GP7P on the back, though the photo is October of 1979.

Actually though, I might have to disagree. the GP38-2 would be the Easiest part, but the coaches wouldn't be so bad either. I've managed to track down these coaches and I have found the appropriate car sides!

Basically, that was a former "segregated" 64 seat AC&F coach built for the MoPac in 1948 for use in the southern states. NJ DOT scooped up at least three (my roster suggests they have a few more) in 1968 for use on the Raritan Valley Line. These trains traveled between Newark Penn Station on the NEC for about a few miles, until it reached Hunter Tower, and then traveled over the Lehigh Valley, then CNJ, to Phillipsburg.

Unfortunately, I can't put a number on this car, since there seems to be some significant variations.

Anyway, here is a link to the car side for this car. The car side is a DEFINITE match for this photo.

The also offer a few other NJ DOT/CNJ cars, such as-

324 and 325, ex MoPac 733 and 734, Budd 1942 coaches

330, 331, 332, 333 ex MoPac coaches, exx C&O parlors built by Pullman Standard in 1950. 332 did not survive into the 1979 roster

271-279 ex KCS Pullman Standard coaches. These were the last such Pullman coaches ever made. Pullmand did make other coach designs, but they would be considered Modern (Comet I, Superliner, etc)

Of course, there were large numbers of the old Steel suburban coaches used by the CNJ all the way until ~1983, when the Comet II coached and HEP equipped F40PHs began to replace the old CNJ equipment on all lines. These were VERY similar to the Reading designs, but were still technically CNJ cars.

Bethlehem Car works Kit # 310matches the celestory roof variants, while kit #1300 matches the arched roof. They sell white metal "kit bit" ends (specifically # 22-H) to replicate the cab control car if desired on the 1300 series cars.


The following Car sides are CNJ/ NJ DOT cars that were purchased in 1968 but did not survive into Conrail-


307, ex CRI&P 328 PS fluted side Divided coach. Scrapped 1974

316, ex CRI&P 72 seat PS coaches. 6 went to the MTA in the 70s, i'm trying to figure out if they lasted long enough to go with my FL9. NJ DOT scrapped theirs in 1974

321ex MoPac Coach/Grill/Dorm, built by Budd in 1942. One went to NJ DOT but didn't last. Scrapped 1975.
Modeling New Jersey Under the Wire 1978-1979.  
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