another industry question
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So I still am building the benchwork on my new layout and the trackplan is figured out, but the industry isnt finalized yet. I have a large area that I had planned on building around my Glacier Gravel Co. building I had on a previous layout. This is a Waltheres cornerstone series kit if anybody isnt familiar. But what Im starting to think about, is I have never seen a gravel pit and so I wouldnt know exactly how to model it. I also really dont know of any large gravel operations like this anywhere around here. Does anybody have any other ideas for a similar sized industry that would see open hoppers that could be found in the midwest?
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#2
Take a look at this open pit coal mine - <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com/search?q=pit">http://lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com/search?q=pit</a><!-- m -->

Chris has other posts in the Fall of 2006 about how he created this small pit. A gravel pit would appear similar in many respects, although you don't usually have to dig a hole to get gravel - it's more like removing a hill.

Andrew
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#3
Thats really cool! I guess just that there isnt a gravel pit around here doesnt mean there cant be one. on my layout.
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MasonJar Wrote:Chris has other posts in the Fall of 2006 about how he created this small pit. A gravel pit would appear similar in many respects, although you don't usually have to dig a hole to get gravel - it's more like removing a hill.

Andrew

There are lots of gravel quarries around here, and all of them involve digging (and blasting) large holes.

KevinKrey Wrote:That's really cool! I guess just that there isn't a gravel pit around here doesn't mean there can't be one on my layout.

If I get my car back in the next couple of days, I'll see if I can get some pictures to post here or in the Industries Along the Rails Forum.

Wayne
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doctorwayne Wrote:
MasonJar Wrote:Chris has other posts in the Fall of 2006 about how he created this small pit. A gravel pit would appear similar in many respects, although you don't usually have to dig a hole to get gravel - it's more like removing a hill.

Andrew

There are lots of gravel quarries around here, and all of them involve digging (and blasting) large holes.

KevinKrey Wrote:That's really cool! I guess just that there isn't a gravel pit around here doesn't mean there can't be one on my layout.

If I get my car back in the next couple of days, I'll see if I can get some pictures to post here or in the Industries Along the Rails Forum.

Wayne

Wayne,

Thanks for providing pics. I guess I am thinking of places like Caledon/Orangeville area, where the gravel comes from glacial deposits left relatively close to the surface. I think that the Niagara Escarpment near you has less "overburden" and blasting and/or deeper holes are required?

Many of the pits near Ottawa too are relatively shallow "scoops" in the ground, and very little blasting is required to loosen the gravel.

Andrew
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#6
Kevin,A gravel pit(also known has a stone quarry) is a hard thing to model because it requires a deep hole.

But,all is not lost.You can model the load out and suggest the pit is beyond that small hill by having a enclosed conveyor heading toward the "pit".

Just be sure to cover this area with white stone dust.
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#7
[Image: gravel_aggregate_quarry.jpg] gravel/aggregate quarry

[Image: gravel_quarry.jpg] sand/gravel/aggregate

[Image: sandandgravel2.jpg] sand/gravel

Maybe this will help.
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doctorwayne Wrote:There are lots of gravel quarries around here, and all of them involve digging (and blasting) large holes.

Blasting?, as in BOOM!!! a "Mythbusters moment" !!! 357 357 357
Brakie Wrote:Kevin,A gravel pit(also known has a stone quarry) is a hard thing to model because it requires a deep hole.

Deep hole.........Modeled in a cardboard box, lifted up against the bottom of the layout, could be used to disguise a maintenance access hole, in an otherwise unreachable part of the layout.
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#9
In this area (south of Orangeville) and around Ottawa and probably most of the country in between, there are a lot of eskers and morraines left over from the glaciation period. The glaciers left lines of gravel and debris at their sides and ends and some was carried along them in rivers and just dropped. This is now on the surface and can just be dug out and hauled away.
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And when my father worked on a commercial steamboat, that was owned by a cement and gravel company, way back when, some of the gravel was dredged out of the Mississippi river! Eek
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