Kitbashing Bachmann 2-6-0 Alco into CNR
#31
cnrglen Wrote:Well done. Was the project ever completed?

Unfortunately not yet. Probably one day, it's a fun locomotive to operate. I have plans to build a small steam era diorama/switching layout one day. That engine would find it's way on it. But that could be in 5 years or more! Who knows!

I also have an unfinished CPR 4-4-0 and CPR 2-8-0.

Matt
Proudly modelling Quebec Railway Light & Power Company since 1997.

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#32
Before restarting this project, I'd like to have some help locating information about a specific Canadian National Locomotive inherited from CGR and Temiscouata Railway.

As a MLW-built CNR engine, this 2-6-0 was the single representant of class C-3-c. Built by MLW in 1910. 19" x 26" cylinder. 51" drivers. Started life as Temiscouata #1, became Canadian National #407.

Any information would be useful. I'd like to model this locomotive as close as possible from the prototype. In another hand other MLW 2-6-0 built circa the same date could be useful to get an idea of the general look of such locomotives. Unfortunately, the locomotive only spent a few months on Temiscouata and very little information is available about it.

Matt
Proudly modelling Quebec Railway Light & Power Company since 1997.

Hedley-Junction Club Layout: http://www.hedley-junction.blogspot.com/

Erie 149th Street Harlem Station http://www.harlem-station.blogspot.com/
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#33
Hi Matt, What would the class numbers of the similar CNR engines?
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#34
sailormatlac Wrote:Before restarting this project, I'd like to have some help locating information about a specific Canadian National Locomotive inherited from CGR and Temiscouata Railway.

As a MLW-built CNR engine, this 2-6-0 was the single representant of class C-3-c. Built by MLW in 1910. 19" x 26" cylinder. 51" drivers. Started life as Temiscouata #1, became Canadian National #407.

Any information would be useful. I'd like to model this locomotive as close as possible from the prototype. In another hand other MLW 2-6-0 built circa the same date could be useful to get an idea of the general look of such locomotives. Unfortunately, the locomotive only spent a few months on Temiscouata and very little information is available about it.

Matt

As you mention, the 407 was the sole member of its class on the CNR. In Clegg and Corley's book CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAM POWER, on page 74, there's a photo of CNR 409, a member of class C-5-b. This loco was built in 1909 at MLW, and served with J.D. MacArthur Company (contractors for the Canadian Northern). When acquired by the CNR, it was already listed as a C.Nor. locomotive. The specifications for this class are the same as for the 407.
The photo, taken in 1938, shows a headlight atop the smokebox and a western-style pilot with horizontal slats, along with three-piece cab windows along the full length of the cab.
Another photo, on page 24, shows locomotive 411 in Kelona, B.C. It has a footboard pilot and its headlight is on the smokebox front, with the CNR-style triangular number board above. The cab appears quite different, with only a single window, and the tender (oil, by the time the photo was taken in 1951) appears to be the same as seen on the 409, save for the addition of the oil bunker.
I can scan these two photos if the would be of any use, but both are in black & white and it's uncertain how much detail would show. I'd guess that either version would be somewhat similar to how the 407 might have appeared, depending on the era in which you wish to operate.

Wayne
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#35
If 411 is a similar engine here's a page with a photo of it's engineer side:
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and # 416 on the fireman's side:

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I hope these help.
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#36
Thanks Wayne and Glen. These sister locomotives share a lot of common characteristics (running board steps, tapered boiler, domes, etc.) with other Temiscouata engine (4-6-0) bought new from MLW in 1909 and 1910. Only the cab vary. Temiscouata seem to have been consistent in cab style.

Wayne, you can send me the photos. By crossing the references, I should be able to have a good idea of the locomotive. I'm not sure yet, but I plan to build it as delivered in 1909 as a Temiscouata locomotive. I was only in service for a few months and shouldn't have been modified by the railway.

Matt
Proudly modelling Quebec Railway Light & Power Company since 1997.

Hedley-Junction Club Layout: http://www.hedley-junction.blogspot.com/

Erie 149th Street Harlem Station http://www.harlem-station.blogspot.com/
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