faraway Wrote:I have all books from Lance Mindenheim and visit his web page frequent. But this scenery woke up a little devil in my head and I got all the photos from Peter Feigenbaums web page (http://www.peterfeigenbaum.com/gallery/i...m=model-rr) on my computer (for reference purposes only.... ).

I agree, his work could be used for a movie set, you'd expect a police car with sirens racing past any moment, on it's way to an other gang shooting etc. It looks very realistic.

Koos

torikoos Wrote:...., his work could be used for a movie set, ...

Well, movie set, might be but it attracts me to build a run down part of a city adjacent to the old industry. There is that little evil in my head.....

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The difference between you and Lance is simple.You're modeling the older industrial areas found in larger Eastern cities while he models the modern urban style.

The older industrial areas was a cesspool of industrial filth while the more modern industrialized areas must follow State and Federal EPA regulations as well as State and Federal OSHA regulations...Lance has captured that look quite well.

Larry, I am sorry.I did not express myself correct.
I referred to Lance because he is my hero and my previous layouts have been strongly influenced by his publications.
I am astounded about myself starting with the older east industry, doing another older industry, slipping from today to the 1980'th than touching the city part to match that industry and now moving even further away by looking at Peter Feigenbaum's photos. There is in my mind more than the usual incremental steps when I redo parts of the layout.

Very nice work Reinhard!

Larry, I am sorry.I did not express myself correct.
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No worries there.I just hope you didn't misinterpret what I was saying in my comparison..

You have captured that older industrialized area looked found in Eastern cities quite well.

Now looking at the buildings I will be using on Slate Creek they're caught in between old (like yours) and the newer concrete box buildings(like Lance uses) seeing the buildings are metal with a concrete foundation..

Brakie Wrote:... just hope you didn't misinterpret what I was saying in my comparison....

No problem, I fully agree. Looking forward for Slate Creek.

This might be a (mortal) wash (for me) or simply a mess (for my wife)

faraway Wrote:

Reinhard,

Do you paint the brick before the mortar wash or are you using the brick color that the plastic kit was cast in?

I have read that a lot of people paint the brick first and then fill in the mortar lines. This seems like a lot of work to me, especially since my layout has some large brick buildings, but may be worth the effort if the final results payoff. I am just wondering if there is an easier way.

Whatever it is that you are doing, the brick looks fantastic.

Mark

Southern Tuxedo Wrote:... I am just wondering if there is an easier way....k

Mark, it may sound complicated but is is quite fast and simple

1. A layer with special plastic primer out of the rattle can to get grip
2. A layer with brown/red primer out of the rattle can
3. Light gray paint distributed with a moist sponge and rubbed into the wall with a close to dry sponge. This step is very fast and you control with the amount of paint and water the intensity of the wash. Start with little paint and more water.

The weekend is almost over and the four boxes are closed. Another 60 window frames at the side and rear walls got painted...

I will do a break now and make up my mind how far I will follow Peters Feigenbaum's example.

Actually, if you could put Peter Feigenbaum's buildings on Chris/GEC's layout, you'd have quite something.

I am using one of the small buildings to learn how divided roller shutter used in the north east are best constructed. Looks like they are very common used in bad neighborhoods. They are perfect canvas for weathering and graffiti.
Next thing to try are the awnings (are they made of metal?) colorful painted with lots of advertisement frequently found in NYC.I tried to get some via copy/paste in street view in Brooklyn, Harlem and Bronx but all interesting awnings have a truck, a tree or a streetlamp in front :cry: Do they have a special name better than plain "awning" to get better results in Google searching for images?


ps. In search for the awnings did I scan Atlantic Ave in Brooklyn. I had 30 years ago the habit to take the Atlantic Ave instead of the highway on my frequent trips from mid hudson valley to JFK airport. My wife and my colleagues always felt very uncomfortable on that route. The Atlantic Ave has greatly improved at the west end. There are a lot small neat shops in the old now very well maintained buildings and somewhat more east did they build everything new. 30 years make a difference.

All in the sudden the Conrail unit looks like belonging there. I guess that would include the UP GP 38.s too... Looking good and interesting to watch this transformation.

faraway Wrote:Mark, it may sound complicated but is is quite fast and simple

1. A layer with special plastic primer out of the rattle can to get grip
2. A layer with brown/red primer out of the rattle can
3. Light gray paint distributed with a moist sponge and rubbed into the wall with a close to dry sponge. This step is very fast and you control with the amount of paint and water the intensity of the wash. Start with little paint and more water.

Thank you Reinhard , Your results are impressive!

What color is the plastic primer (I am assuming that it is some sort of paint)?

Mark

Mark, the plastic primer looks like dull coat. It has no specific color. It is intended to be used to repair plastic bumpers of cars. The brown rattle can is a primer/filler for car repair too. They have white, light gray and brown primer. All are from the local home improvement store.

First attempts in slum weathering. I will try to do tagging etc.without decals.


BF = might be the mighty Black Forrest brother gang :o