12-20-2013, 09:43 AM
Besides...I won't want to see Mindenhiem swinging naked on a wrecking ball....
In all fairness, Lance Mindheim is in good shape.
People can pick and choose what they want to say on forums. They should just be respectful and constructive in what they say and keep the feelings of those that they are critical of and mindful of the others on the forum. I try to do that, but I'm not always successful.
By that same observation, I try to take criticism with a grain of salt. If someone doesn't agree with me, so be it. I won't make everybody happy and I have the same amount of money in my pocket whether anyone agrees with me or not. Many people don't like my small table top layout plans, and that's fine with me. They have another point of view than I do.
That being said, I don't think that mentioning or modelling stuff like chicken sacrifices or suicides are worth fighting over. It's the amount of realism that people are comfortable with modeling or looking at. These are things that happen(ed) in real life and can sometimes add to the flavor of the modelling.
There's a guy who models the wrong side of the tracks in HO scale http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic...C_ID=18983. It has a guy with six bullet holes in his chest lying in a dumpster, ladies of the evening (one of whom is "big boned" with a deeper voice than the others), a pimp with a suitable ride named Leroy Brown (like the song), signs for a "gentlemen's club", homeless people, and other assorted down on it's luck neighborhood details. I find this to be great modelling and also a reminder of what I grew up in.
George Sellios' F&SM has all sorts of whimsical and body function jokes throughout the layout. There are guys relieving themselves all over the layout, a guy sitting on a discarded toilet reading a newspaper with his pants around his ankles, a guy sitting in an outhouse with the door falling open, women skinny dipping in the river, Y.B Fardy - makers of Gastorex, and a gangster car riddled with machine gun bullets hooked up to a tow truck. I find George Sellios' layout to quite possibly be one of the greatest modeled train layouts, ever. One of the reasons is because of it's stark realism.
People modeling the Holocaust have an important place in the hobby as well as social consciousness. They model a piece of history
that are reminders of how low humans can treat others. When people forget, that's when history repeats itself. Those who model the Old West rarely model the gun fighting in the streets, usually with innocent bystanders shot before the people who are targeted,
while sheriffs, marshals, and judges were often killed by the dozens for trying to do their job. Not so much of a full slice of history.
We can choose to model what we want as realistically as we want or take a break from reality and model an ideal world, where nothing bad happens. It's up to each persons tastes and levels of comfort.
As to celebrity, it's all a matter of what's important to the individual. I've met Academy Award winners and world leaders.They entertained us with their craft, and sometimes changed our perspective on things. I don't believe, however, that we should assign tier status or put them up on pedestals.
I knew a Statistics professor who used to streamline manufacturing practices. His name was W.E. Deming. You may not know of him, but you know his work. He showed the executives at Toyota, statistically, how to build quality cars from the not so good cars they were producing before. He was also responsible for setting up the manufacturing process for the original Ford Taurus, the car that saved the Ford Motor Company. This is a guy that should have received celebrity status because he changed peoples lives for the better, yet nobody has heard of him.
Personally, I like a lot of Lance Mindheim's ideas. I don't always agree 100% with his writing, but I agree with most of them.
In all fairness, Lance Mindheim is in good shape.
People can pick and choose what they want to say on forums. They should just be respectful and constructive in what they say and keep the feelings of those that they are critical of and mindful of the others on the forum. I try to do that, but I'm not always successful.
By that same observation, I try to take criticism with a grain of salt. If someone doesn't agree with me, so be it. I won't make everybody happy and I have the same amount of money in my pocket whether anyone agrees with me or not. Many people don't like my small table top layout plans, and that's fine with me. They have another point of view than I do.
That being said, I don't think that mentioning or modelling stuff like chicken sacrifices or suicides are worth fighting over. It's the amount of realism that people are comfortable with modeling or looking at. These are things that happen(ed) in real life and can sometimes add to the flavor of the modelling.
There's a guy who models the wrong side of the tracks in HO scale http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic...C_ID=18983. It has a guy with six bullet holes in his chest lying in a dumpster, ladies of the evening (one of whom is "big boned" with a deeper voice than the others), a pimp with a suitable ride named Leroy Brown (like the song), signs for a "gentlemen's club", homeless people, and other assorted down on it's luck neighborhood details. I find this to be great modelling and also a reminder of what I grew up in.
George Sellios' F&SM has all sorts of whimsical and body function jokes throughout the layout. There are guys relieving themselves all over the layout, a guy sitting on a discarded toilet reading a newspaper with his pants around his ankles, a guy sitting in an outhouse with the door falling open, women skinny dipping in the river, Y.B Fardy - makers of Gastorex, and a gangster car riddled with machine gun bullets hooked up to a tow truck. I find George Sellios' layout to quite possibly be one of the greatest modeled train layouts, ever. One of the reasons is because of it's stark realism.
People modeling the Holocaust have an important place in the hobby as well as social consciousness. They model a piece of history
that are reminders of how low humans can treat others. When people forget, that's when history repeats itself. Those who model the Old West rarely model the gun fighting in the streets, usually with innocent bystanders shot before the people who are targeted,
while sheriffs, marshals, and judges were often killed by the dozens for trying to do their job. Not so much of a full slice of history.
We can choose to model what we want as realistically as we want or take a break from reality and model an ideal world, where nothing bad happens. It's up to each persons tastes and levels of comfort.
As to celebrity, it's all a matter of what's important to the individual. I've met Academy Award winners and world leaders.They entertained us with their craft, and sometimes changed our perspective on things. I don't believe, however, that we should assign tier status or put them up on pedestals.
I knew a Statistics professor who used to streamline manufacturing practices. His name was W.E. Deming. You may not know of him, but you know his work. He showed the executives at Toyota, statistically, how to build quality cars from the not so good cars they were producing before. He was also responsible for setting up the manufacturing process for the original Ford Taurus, the car that saved the Ford Motor Company. This is a guy that should have received celebrity status because he changed peoples lives for the better, yet nobody has heard of him.
Personally, I like a lot of Lance Mindheim's ideas. I don't always agree 100% with his writing, but I agree with most of them.
Mike Kieran
Port Able Lines
" If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be " - Yogi Berra.
Port Able Lines
" If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be " - Yogi Berra.