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  Big Blue Inaugural Photo Contest --- Motive Power...
Posted by: ngauger - 01-02-2009, 10:17 PM - Forum: Contests & Challenges - No Replies

Any model or prototype picture of Railroad Steam or Diesel engines will suffice!!!

Begins Jan 20 (Inauguration day) and ends Feb 28th....

ALL pictures submitted MUST have been taken by the member submitting the work!! No exceptions!!

Pictures of Model Railroads and Prototypes will be judged separately... Each member can only enter One Picture in Each half of the Contest.. Ex. One picture in either Model or Prototype. Or 2 pictures - one in each subject.

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Of course, there are no real prizes, just bragging rights!! The Winner of each half of the contest will receive a Special Inaugural Certificate from Big Blue. Sent directly to your e-mail!!!

Judging will be the first week of March!!!

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  The Layout..
Posted by: Dan85 - 01-02-2009, 08:10 PM - Forum: Layouts - Replies (42)

Figured that I would start a layout thread over here, I have not posted anything since I have not been making much progress! However, some funds and time were recently allocated (read: winter break and Christmas) so I have a bit of progress!

Went to the LHS and was looking for decals, found some microscale graffiti decals and figured that I would try a few out. Not 100% sure on the tags, they look a bit ridiculous and I can see the edges of the decal - can't figure out how to fix that. One trick I did figure out was that if you tear one off after it has set it leaves the appearance that it has been partially cleaned off.

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Worked on my new junction, added filler and weathering. These tracks will most likely not be in use.

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Assembled and painted a new building, it is still awaiting a few architectural details. I like to try and come up with some different paint schemes, so I often have a few repaints. For some reason I tend to end up working mostly with dark browns, so I wanted to try something a little different with this building. Colors are Railroad Tie Brown, Mineral Red, and windows are Pullman Green.

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I also began assembling a new split level building in my industrial corridor. It is a combination of two city classics kits. Colors are Sand (concrete) and aged concrete (brick). Front side facing the camera is unpainted.

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Finally, I finished my second plow. Yeah..don't ask me why I took the picture with a post in the middle..

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- Dan

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  A New Year's resolution challenge
Posted by: ezdays - 01-02-2009, 07:05 PM - Forum: Contests & Challenges - Replies (15)

Yep, Big Blue is having it's first ever challenge, and you all gave us the idea. Mikey and I were looking over everyone's resolutions in this http://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=421 thread, and some of your plans for 2009 in thishttp://www.the-gauge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=418 and we thought we have a challenge that will check up on you and see how well you're keeping your promises. What you need to do is to define some goals, then over the next few months, you can document the progress on these goals and by the end of April, we'll judge you on how close you came to meeting those goals.

Here's how it's going to work:

  1. Pick a project, or several projects that you've either already said that you want to complete this year, or ones that you haven't told us about yet, but would like to complete.
  2. Start a thread in this forum "your screen name, 2009 New Year's challenge"
  3. Tell us what you intend to do as part of your challenge. This can be as simple as building a kit or painting a loco, to more complex projects like putting track down on a section of your or your club's layout, building some benchwork, finishing some scenery, adding a backdrop or completing a specific area of the layout.
  4. Document your progress with as many pictures and any number of posts to let us know how you're making it to your goal.
  5. Since we never give anything of value away, this challenge is open to all registered members of the Big Blue Train Forum, including the staff.
  6. All the pictures should be taken by you, and a substantial amount of the work must also be done by you. In either case, if you need help with the photos or building, use it, but your participation is what counts.
It's that simple, you are already a winner because you actually got something done, rather than just thinking about doing it.

The challenge starts right now, and will run until April 30.
We will then try to divide the entries into some categories as to complexity of the project, and how close it comes to meeting its goals. We will not decide how to group things, if at all, until the end of the challenge since we have no idea what kind of projects will be entered and how many will actually get close to being finished.
A poll will open so that we can pick a winner.
As usual, there are no real prizes, just bragging rights and a certificate from Big Blue showing that you won first place. And, as an added bonus, a certificate of completion will be awarded to everyone that actually comes close to finishing their projects.

We are not trying to make this complicated, let me know if it sounds that way. All we're asking is that you define a project, keep us posted on how you're doing on it and we'll see how close you come when we reach the end date.

Good luck

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  Superior Detritous Boxcar
Posted by: Fluesheet - 01-02-2009, 06:21 PM - Forum: HO Modeling - Replies (7)

This car is produced by Full Circle Models (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.fullcmodels.com/">http://www.fullcmodels.com/</a><!-- m -->). I like old-style freight cars but probably wouldn't have found out about this kit except that my sister in law happened to marry the son of the owner. This was the first wedding where I was able talk trains when time allowed!

The owner's inspiration came from the modelers of yore, specifically from a 1955 MR article by John Allen. He wanted to pay tribute to their efforts and construction methods, hence the company name.

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The kit is composed of cardstock and resin parts for the major parts (carbody and underframe) and commercial detail kits from Grandt Line and Tichy.

The packaged kit:
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The underframe is cast resin, bolsters pre-tapped - very little cleanup needed. Queenposts and Grandt Line K-brakes are separately applied (by you!)
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The carbody structure starts with a bunch of puzzle pieces - very nifty:
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The carbody takes shape. The cubes that make up the car ends are very rigid. Full Circle provides very big bolts for weighting the car (this is what the holes are for). I opted for lead on the floor to keep the CG lower. You have to be careful with the structure at this point - the heavy ends can cause the roof to buckle if you pick it up clumsily.
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The underframe is held in mechanically via tabs in the resin casting that insert into slots in the carbody sides. The underframe is actually cast by a firm outside of full circle. Considering the two manufacturers and dissimilar materials, I was very impressed with the engineering of the model at this point - everything fit as snug as a bug in a rug.
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Sides and ends are pre-printed and weathered thin cardstock. Attachment is via white glue.
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Add a bunch of details (everything is provided - trucks, kadee couplers, grabs, poling pockets, ladders, etc.), and you're done.
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Instructions were very good - not the best I've seen, but good for a first product. Full Circle has revised these at least once since I received my kit - it's nice to see a manufacturer actively improving the product.
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Last, every kit comes with a certificate with your name, kit number and text which I think shows the owner's interest in the hobby. Yes, I'm kind of sort of related to the owner, but given this is only the 19th kit ever produced, I'm impressed. And yes, it took me almost a year to get it done (counting "to be constructed" dwell time! I had a caboose to finish!).
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Matt

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  When were these cars used?
Posted by: KentBy - 01-02-2009, 06:07 PM - Forum: Upper Berth - Replies (8)

I have accured a collection of HO cars, but I think some don't fit my period. I am trying to restrict my stock to mid 50's, so tell me if I should trade off these cars.

All are Athearn Blue Box.

ATSF 55' ACF center flow hopper.

AFSF 50' Supper Shock Control box car.

ATSF 40' HI-CUBE box car.

Milwaukee Road 40' HI-CUBE box car.

Kent

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  Posting videos?
Posted by: RailCop - 01-02-2009, 03:01 PM - Forum: Shutterbug area - Replies (1)

I was just wondering, can a member post a short video on this board in the same manner as posting a photo? Just curious.

KT

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  Mail order
Posted by: RailCop - 01-02-2009, 02:34 PM - Forum: DCC - Replies (4)

Anyone here ever deal with Tony's Train Exchange? They have a good deal on an item I want. Even with S&H it's about $9 cheaper than at Walthers. I'm ready to order but have never dealt with Tony's. Just looking for some advice.

Thanks,

KT

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  Bashing An Inexpensive Plastic Structure Kit
Posted by: Drew - 01-02-2009, 10:52 AM - Forum: Scratchbuilding and kitbashing - All Scales - Replies (14)

I used to do these “Kitbasher’s Diary” threads a long time ago at the old Gauge, & this was one of them… I’m sure some of you have seen these before, but I thought since this is a fairly new site, I’d re-post this one…It probably won’t be of much interest to the “old hands”, but I thought some newcomers to the hobby might get an idea or two from it…

This will hopefully demonstrate how you can take an inexpensive plastic structure kit, & by moving things around, taking some things away, & adding others, you can transform it into something that is unique to your layout…
I’m also hoping to demonstrate how mistakes & flaws can lead you on to even better ideas…


This was an N scale project, but it could be any scale…

Here’s the kit I started with…(keep in mind that the manufacturer’s description of the kit means nothing to the kitbasher…we look at them as simply a collection of parts)

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Built per instructions, they’re a bit toy-like…hopefully, we’ll be able to improve on that a little…
The first thing I did was to discard the molded plastic base…this frees you up as to the “footprint” of the structure…
I glued the walls together, & the little annex that’s supposed to go on the rear of the main structure, I attached to the side, keeping the tops of the walls even…

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I needed some kind of foundation for the annex now, so I cut some pieces from some HO scale brick walls…I also cut a hole for a door in the main section, rather than using the large arched door assembly that came with the kit…I primed everything with gray primer…

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The back wall of the main structure was basically a blank…it was just calling for something, so I fashioned a lean-to addition from pieces of an old Model Power farmhouse kit…Made another little foundation from the HO brick walls…

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I painted everything, & glued in the windows…If you look back at the 2nd & 3rd photos, you’ll see a large gap where the annex joins the main structure…I hid this with a chimney I made from styrene covered with Holgate & Reynolds brick sheet…

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  Train speed
Posted by: railroader9731 - 01-02-2009, 02:54 AM - Forum: Lower Berth - Replies (8)

Ok heres one for you guys and gals, how do you find out what scale speed your loco is doing?

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  MR track plan contest
Posted by: TrainNut - 01-01-2009, 10:59 PM - Forum: Layouts - Replies (15)

EDIT: This post was originally submitted in January. Shortly after I posted it, it was brought to my attention by several concerned members that the exposure here could hurt my chances of winning if MR were to discover it. With that in mind, I decided to follow the suggested advice and removed it. Now, after 5 months of waiting and not so much as a "thanks for your entry" from them, it has turned out that I didn't win... in fact, I didn't even place. So, without further adieu, let's bring this puppy back.

The Magnum and Moon Valley Takes Shape!
An idea born for a family but fine tuned for competition

Most model railroaders I know have a common dream. That dream is for the next layout to be just a little bit bigger and a little bit better than the last. I am no exception. Even though I have taken over the dining room with my DR Deep Creek, I’ve already got plans to sacrifice that one for the next. You see, my wife currently occupies 200 square feet of our family room with her office. Lately, since the Phoenix office now employees more than one person, she has been toying with the idea of moving her office out of our home into… an ACTUAL office. If this takes place, I have been given permission to stake claim on that space for my next bigger, better layout! I wasted no time in designing my next “dream” layout to fit every inch of the hopeful new space.

July of this year (2008), I was flipping through the latest MR magazine issue when a rather bold title across the top of a single page caught my eye…a track plan contest!

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I must say, the idea sounded intriguing and I had been tinkering around with that new layout idea. I’ve also dreamed of submitting something to MRR ever since I was a kid. So, I decided to take the plan I’d been working on, massage it a little, and see if I couldn’t turn it into a prize winning entry. Also, the chance at winning first prize wouldn’t make me rich overnight but all the same was still appealing!

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Another key point of interest across the bottom of the page was the deadline. Since I decided to get serious about this entry, I had only three months to pull it all together.

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Rules! Of course, every contest has to have a few rules. Here’s the fine print…
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Basically, there’s nothing too restrictive in there except the fact that the whole thing has to be 200 square feet or less including access and aisle ways. Without any further delay, following is requirement E – a brief, written description to accompany the plans.

Introduction
Hello! I’m addicted to trains! I’ve been interested in trains ever since my father and an Uncle helped me build my first layout. I was eight years old then and have been infatuated ever since. Now it’s my turn to give back to the hobby as I am sharing my enthusiasm with my two sons.

Since I became interested in trains, I have designed and built eleven layouts. They have ranged from pizza layouts to coffee table layouts and advanced to my current layout which occupies prime real estate along two walls of our dining room. My wife is very supportive of my hobby and contributes her skills on occasion.

Planning goals
The Magnum and Moon Valley, when built, will be our twelfth layout. Rather than design an improved variation of our last layout, I want to bust out of the mold and really try something different. My ever expanding family has given me the perfect inspiration to try just that. My wife and I have two young boys (ages 3 and 6). They both love playing with trains as much as I do. However, the problem is that I model mostly N scale and tinker with HOn3, while HO is a more enjoyable scale for boys of their ages. Thus, I started toying with the idea of how to design a single, cohesive layout to accommodate two scales and two gauges, yet not look awkward combined within the same layout. I want the scales spatially separated vertically and horizontally by at least four inches. I shall accomplish this with the help of forced perspective and continuous scenery between the levels to keep them separate, and tied together at the same time. Below is a very basic graphical representation of what I am trying to explain...

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My first goal is to have a small part of the layout where my boys can actively participate by independently running their own trains. Their part of the layout will consist of an easy to operate and interesting DC, HO loop (30” above floor level) with one passing siding. The HO loop would be located on the lowest level of the layout closest to the outside edge for easy access. On a side note, when we visit other layouts, my boys always seem especially interested in following the trains even when they disappear from view underneath a layout and inside tunnels. To incorporate that, I plan on making a large section of the HO line in a tunnel, half exposed at the edge of the layout in a cutaway view that would show detailed, rock lined interiors and an interactive subway scene. To further enhance the underground experience, I plan on creating two kid cavern corridors underneath the layout so they can follow along as the trains pass through the wooden infrastructure.

On a recent family vacation to Durango, CO and Chama, NM, I became very interested in narrow gauge railroads. As a result, I purchased an HOn3 engine and some rolling stock. I don’t however, have anywhere to run them. Therefore, my second goal is to incorporate a dog bone loop of DCC, HOn3 (34” above floor level) with some light switching opportunities. This will be offset four inches above the HO line below.

As I grow older, my interest in “just watching the trains go ‘round n ‘round” has lessened while my desire to imitate prototypical operations has increased. Therefore, my final goal for this layout will be to have the majority of the upper level occupied by DCC, N scale capable of continuous mainline running AND operations.

Construction and scenery techniques
This layout will be built in 10 sections (see framing plan below) for ease of transport if the need ever arises. The structure of the layout will rest on wheels so the entire assembly can be pulled away from the wall for those rare occasions when access to the hidden tracks on the backside is needed. My current layout is built this way and it works well.

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The supporting framework will be built using 2 x 2’s for the vertical supports, 1 x 4’s for the outside framing and ¾ x 1 ½’s for cross supports roughly every foot. The framing will be topped with homasote to support the track work and 1” foam to support the scenery. The majority of the scenery will be built up by shaping and carving the foam and by applying plaster cloth over wadded newspapers.

Special scenic features
As each consist is dispatched from Magnum Yard, it will follow a natural progression from scene to scene. Along this journey, the railroad will depart the urban city scene of Magnum, travel through the countryside, and return back after passing under the fictitious Mount-Ian.

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The first of several notable features along the trip starts with the city scene of Magnum. Since the central focus
will be the rail yard, Magnum will exist mostly as a wide city scene backdrop with building facades of various depths against the backdrop to portray a deeper scene. Several of those facades will be deep enough to sit over the top of three hidden staging tracks.

Another notable feature will be Echo Canyon. The canyon will be placed at a location on the layout where it can take full advantage of both scales and both gauges passing in close proximity to offer an impressive scene. As the canyon will progress around the corner into view and towards the edge of the layout, it will first encounter the HOn3 line emerging near the back from a rock framed tunnel. The HOn3 will then precariously claw its way along the cliff to finally cross over Babble Creek on a rickety, curved trestle. Meanwhile, high overhead, three N scale mainlines will cross the canyon on two different truss bridges. Finally, as the creek cascades its way down through the canyon and under the various bridges, it will makes its final exit off scene by passing under the final bridge of the HO line.

Near the town of Moon Valley, we encounter a third notable feature. As the dual, N scale main lines pass below the town, they will sweep out over the valley on a long, curved, stone viaduct. Since I have not found any prototypical reproductions that fit my requirements, I plan on scratch building this feature.

Finally, just past Moon Valley, the scenery will change to a very rocky, mountainous scene. I have always wanted to incorporate cable cars into a layout and the mountain scene will be just the place for that opportunity. The first cable car station is located just outside the city limits of the town while the terminus station rests high atop Mount-Ian at 55” above floor level.

The following two graphics were created to help simplify understanding the layout. Having it all combined on one graphic can be a little overwhelming so I pulled out first, the HO level, and second, the HOn3 level, to show you what parts of the layout would be associated with ONLY those scales and gauges.
HO...
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HOn3...
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Specifications
When designing this layout, I knew I did not have the space for large turnouts, large radii or low grades while still packing in as much as I wanted. I also did not want to design a layout that larger N scale engines and long trains could not operate on. With that in mind, I chose the following standards - all turnouts are Peco #6’s (HO, HOn3 & N) except one #4 (N) which leads to an industry in Moon Valley. Minimum radii are 12” for N scale except one 11” radius below Moon Valley. Minimum radii for HO & HOn3 are 18”. Throughout the entire layout, I maintained a layout depth of 2’-4” with the exception of the two back corners of Magnum Yard which stretches just a bit more. Grades are only 2% on the N scale line between Magnum Yard and Moon Valley. HO & HOn3 have no grades. Due to the configuration of the layout, I was able to work in an HO mainline of 31’, an HOn3 mainline of 41’-2” and an N scale mainline that has a total run of 120’-5”.

Operating concept
As mentioned above, one of the goals for this layout is to have the ability for continuous running and/or operations. With two gauges, two scales and the configuration of the N scale track, this layout has been designed to accommodate continuous running of four unattended trains. It will also support additional switching operations in Magnum Yard as well as Moon Valley. To keep things simple for my boys, the HO line will be wired for DC while the rest of the layout will be wired for DCC. In addition to the regular commodities a railroad distributes on a daily basis, specific items to be transported shall include livestock, rocks and minerals, lumber and passengers.
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And that’s all I had to say about that! Personally, I think my chances of winning first place are pretty slim. I have committed a very large “no no” in the world of model railroading and that’s combining different scales on the same layout even though I did my best to separate them. Several suggested I simplify my layout to only one scale for better chances at winning. I declined and kept it the way it was as if I had changed it, it would no longer have been a layout for me and my boys. Contest results will not be published until May of 2009.

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