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  Posting videos?
Posted by: RailCop - 01-02-2009, 03:01 PM - Forum: Shutterbug area - Replies (1)

I was just wondering, can a member post a short video on this board in the same manner as posting a photo? Just curious.

KT

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  Mail order
Posted by: RailCop - 01-02-2009, 02:34 PM - Forum: DCC - Replies (4)

Anyone here ever deal with Tony's Train Exchange? They have a good deal on an item I want. Even with S&H it's about $9 cheaper than at Walthers. I'm ready to order but have never dealt with Tony's. Just looking for some advice.

Thanks,

KT

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  Bashing An Inexpensive Plastic Structure Kit
Posted by: Drew - 01-02-2009, 10:52 AM - Forum: Scratchbuilding and kitbashing - All Scales - Replies (14)

I used to do these “Kitbasher’s Diary” threads a long time ago at the old Gauge, & this was one of them… I’m sure some of you have seen these before, but I thought since this is a fairly new site, I’d re-post this one…It probably won’t be of much interest to the “old hands”, but I thought some newcomers to the hobby might get an idea or two from it…

This will hopefully demonstrate how you can take an inexpensive plastic structure kit, & by moving things around, taking some things away, & adding others, you can transform it into something that is unique to your layout…
I’m also hoping to demonstrate how mistakes & flaws can lead you on to even better ideas…


This was an N scale project, but it could be any scale…

Here’s the kit I started with…(keep in mind that the manufacturer’s description of the kit means nothing to the kitbasher…we look at them as simply a collection of parts)

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Built per instructions, they’re a bit toy-like…hopefully, we’ll be able to improve on that a little…
The first thing I did was to discard the molded plastic base…this frees you up as to the “footprint” of the structure…
I glued the walls together, & the little annex that’s supposed to go on the rear of the main structure, I attached to the side, keeping the tops of the walls even…

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I needed some kind of foundation for the annex now, so I cut some pieces from some HO scale brick walls…I also cut a hole for a door in the main section, rather than using the large arched door assembly that came with the kit…I primed everything with gray primer…

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The back wall of the main structure was basically a blank…it was just calling for something, so I fashioned a lean-to addition from pieces of an old Model Power farmhouse kit…Made another little foundation from the HO brick walls…

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I painted everything, & glued in the windows…If you look back at the 2nd & 3rd photos, you’ll see a large gap where the annex joins the main structure…I hid this with a chimney I made from styrene covered with Holgate & Reynolds brick sheet…

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  Train speed
Posted by: railroader9731 - 01-02-2009, 02:54 AM - Forum: Lower Berth - Replies (8)

Ok heres one for you guys and gals, how do you find out what scale speed your loco is doing?

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  MR track plan contest
Posted by: TrainNut - 01-01-2009, 10:59 PM - Forum: Layouts - Replies (15)

EDIT: This post was originally submitted in January. Shortly after I posted it, it was brought to my attention by several concerned members that the exposure here could hurt my chances of winning if MR were to discover it. With that in mind, I decided to follow the suggested advice and removed it. Now, after 5 months of waiting and not so much as a "thanks for your entry" from them, it has turned out that I didn't win... in fact, I didn't even place. So, without further adieu, let's bring this puppy back.

The Magnum and Moon Valley Takes Shape!
An idea born for a family but fine tuned for competition

Most model railroaders I know have a common dream. That dream is for the next layout to be just a little bit bigger and a little bit better than the last. I am no exception. Even though I have taken over the dining room with my DR Deep Creek, I’ve already got plans to sacrifice that one for the next. You see, my wife currently occupies 200 square feet of our family room with her office. Lately, since the Phoenix office now employees more than one person, she has been toying with the idea of moving her office out of our home into… an ACTUAL office. If this takes place, I have been given permission to stake claim on that space for my next bigger, better layout! I wasted no time in designing my next “dream” layout to fit every inch of the hopeful new space.

July of this year (2008), I was flipping through the latest MR magazine issue when a rather bold title across the top of a single page caught my eye…a track plan contest!

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I must say, the idea sounded intriguing and I had been tinkering around with that new layout idea. I’ve also dreamed of submitting something to MRR ever since I was a kid. So, I decided to take the plan I’d been working on, massage it a little, and see if I couldn’t turn it into a prize winning entry. Also, the chance at winning first prize wouldn’t make me rich overnight but all the same was still appealing!

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Another key point of interest across the bottom of the page was the deadline. Since I decided to get serious about this entry, I had only three months to pull it all together.

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Rules! Of course, every contest has to have a few rules. Here’s the fine print…
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Basically, there’s nothing too restrictive in there except the fact that the whole thing has to be 200 square feet or less including access and aisle ways. Without any further delay, following is requirement E – a brief, written description to accompany the plans.

Introduction
Hello! I’m addicted to trains! I’ve been interested in trains ever since my father and an Uncle helped me build my first layout. I was eight years old then and have been infatuated ever since. Now it’s my turn to give back to the hobby as I am sharing my enthusiasm with my two sons.

Since I became interested in trains, I have designed and built eleven layouts. They have ranged from pizza layouts to coffee table layouts and advanced to my current layout which occupies prime real estate along two walls of our dining room. My wife is very supportive of my hobby and contributes her skills on occasion.

Planning goals
The Magnum and Moon Valley, when built, will be our twelfth layout. Rather than design an improved variation of our last layout, I want to bust out of the mold and really try something different. My ever expanding family has given me the perfect inspiration to try just that. My wife and I have two young boys (ages 3 and 6). They both love playing with trains as much as I do. However, the problem is that I model mostly N scale and tinker with HOn3, while HO is a more enjoyable scale for boys of their ages. Thus, I started toying with the idea of how to design a single, cohesive layout to accommodate two scales and two gauges, yet not look awkward combined within the same layout. I want the scales spatially separated vertically and horizontally by at least four inches. I shall accomplish this with the help of forced perspective and continuous scenery between the levels to keep them separate, and tied together at the same time. Below is a very basic graphical representation of what I am trying to explain...

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My first goal is to have a small part of the layout where my boys can actively participate by independently running their own trains. Their part of the layout will consist of an easy to operate and interesting DC, HO loop (30” above floor level) with one passing siding. The HO loop would be located on the lowest level of the layout closest to the outside edge for easy access. On a side note, when we visit other layouts, my boys always seem especially interested in following the trains even when they disappear from view underneath a layout and inside tunnels. To incorporate that, I plan on making a large section of the HO line in a tunnel, half exposed at the edge of the layout in a cutaway view that would show detailed, rock lined interiors and an interactive subway scene. To further enhance the underground experience, I plan on creating two kid cavern corridors underneath the layout so they can follow along as the trains pass through the wooden infrastructure.

On a recent family vacation to Durango, CO and Chama, NM, I became very interested in narrow gauge railroads. As a result, I purchased an HOn3 engine and some rolling stock. I don’t however, have anywhere to run them. Therefore, my second goal is to incorporate a dog bone loop of DCC, HOn3 (34” above floor level) with some light switching opportunities. This will be offset four inches above the HO line below.

As I grow older, my interest in “just watching the trains go ‘round n ‘round” has lessened while my desire to imitate prototypical operations has increased. Therefore, my final goal for this layout will be to have the majority of the upper level occupied by DCC, N scale capable of continuous mainline running AND operations.

Construction and scenery techniques
This layout will be built in 10 sections (see framing plan below) for ease of transport if the need ever arises. The structure of the layout will rest on wheels so the entire assembly can be pulled away from the wall for those rare occasions when access to the hidden tracks on the backside is needed. My current layout is built this way and it works well.

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The supporting framework will be built using 2 x 2’s for the vertical supports, 1 x 4’s for the outside framing and ¾ x 1 ½’s for cross supports roughly every foot. The framing will be topped with homasote to support the track work and 1” foam to support the scenery. The majority of the scenery will be built up by shaping and carving the foam and by applying plaster cloth over wadded newspapers.

Special scenic features
As each consist is dispatched from Magnum Yard, it will follow a natural progression from scene to scene. Along this journey, the railroad will depart the urban city scene of Magnum, travel through the countryside, and return back after passing under the fictitious Mount-Ian.

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The first of several notable features along the trip starts with the city scene of Magnum. Since the central focus
will be the rail yard, Magnum will exist mostly as a wide city scene backdrop with building facades of various depths against the backdrop to portray a deeper scene. Several of those facades will be deep enough to sit over the top of three hidden staging tracks.

Another notable feature will be Echo Canyon. The canyon will be placed at a location on the layout where it can take full advantage of both scales and both gauges passing in close proximity to offer an impressive scene. As the canyon will progress around the corner into view and towards the edge of the layout, it will first encounter the HOn3 line emerging near the back from a rock framed tunnel. The HOn3 will then precariously claw its way along the cliff to finally cross over Babble Creek on a rickety, curved trestle. Meanwhile, high overhead, three N scale mainlines will cross the canyon on two different truss bridges. Finally, as the creek cascades its way down through the canyon and under the various bridges, it will makes its final exit off scene by passing under the final bridge of the HO line.

Near the town of Moon Valley, we encounter a third notable feature. As the dual, N scale main lines pass below the town, they will sweep out over the valley on a long, curved, stone viaduct. Since I have not found any prototypical reproductions that fit my requirements, I plan on scratch building this feature.

Finally, just past Moon Valley, the scenery will change to a very rocky, mountainous scene. I have always wanted to incorporate cable cars into a layout and the mountain scene will be just the place for that opportunity. The first cable car station is located just outside the city limits of the town while the terminus station rests high atop Mount-Ian at 55” above floor level.

The following two graphics were created to help simplify understanding the layout. Having it all combined on one graphic can be a little overwhelming so I pulled out first, the HO level, and second, the HOn3 level, to show you what parts of the layout would be associated with ONLY those scales and gauges.
HO...
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HOn3...
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Specifications
When designing this layout, I knew I did not have the space for large turnouts, large radii or low grades while still packing in as much as I wanted. I also did not want to design a layout that larger N scale engines and long trains could not operate on. With that in mind, I chose the following standards - all turnouts are Peco #6’s (HO, HOn3 & N) except one #4 (N) which leads to an industry in Moon Valley. Minimum radii are 12” for N scale except one 11” radius below Moon Valley. Minimum radii for HO & HOn3 are 18”. Throughout the entire layout, I maintained a layout depth of 2’-4” with the exception of the two back corners of Magnum Yard which stretches just a bit more. Grades are only 2% on the N scale line between Magnum Yard and Moon Valley. HO & HOn3 have no grades. Due to the configuration of the layout, I was able to work in an HO mainline of 31’, an HOn3 mainline of 41’-2” and an N scale mainline that has a total run of 120’-5”.

Operating concept
As mentioned above, one of the goals for this layout is to have the ability for continuous running and/or operations. With two gauges, two scales and the configuration of the N scale track, this layout has been designed to accommodate continuous running of four unattended trains. It will also support additional switching operations in Magnum Yard as well as Moon Valley. To keep things simple for my boys, the HO line will be wired for DC while the rest of the layout will be wired for DCC. In addition to the regular commodities a railroad distributes on a daily basis, specific items to be transported shall include livestock, rocks and minerals, lumber and passengers.
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And that’s all I had to say about that! Personally, I think my chances of winning first place are pretty slim. I have committed a very large “no no” in the world of model railroading and that’s combining different scales on the same layout even though I did my best to separate them. Several suggested I simplify my layout to only one scale for better chances at winning. I declined and kept it the way it was as if I had changed it, it would no longer have been a layout for me and my boys. Contest results will not be published until May of 2009.

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  Something I like
Posted by: BR60103 - 01-01-2009, 10:32 PM - Forum: Forum Problems and Requests - Replies (8)

I've just noticed that after I've run though the View new posts, if I go back and ask for it again I get the same threads plus any new ones but any that I've looked at have a grey ball instead of red.

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  How do I access a list of photo Galleries?
Posted by: ocalicreek - 01-01-2009, 07:55 PM - Forum: Forum Problems and Requests - Replies (17)

How do I access a list of photo galleries? I have my own gallery set up, but I'd like to see a list of the other members galleries. I only get recent images or random images when I click on the gallery link. A sticky on how to access the gallery and work its features would be nice.

Galen

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  Train Wrecks
Posted by: Charlie B - 01-01-2009, 07:40 PM - Forum: US Rails - Replies (6)

Here is a link to some of my train wreck pictures. Some were on PC and then into early Conrail. All were on the Pittsburg Chicago mainline If anyone else has some to share this is the thread.
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Charlie

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  How About An Interesting Links Page?
Posted by: Cannonball - 01-01-2009, 12:06 PM - Forum: Forum Problems and Requests - Replies (1)

How about a space in the forum where people can post links to interesting railroading topics? Stuff like the link to the Horseshoe Curve cam, railroad museums, historical background pages, operating passenger short lines, other modeling pages and/or how to pages. Just interesting railroading stuff found around the world wide web. That way they would be collected in one spot and people wouldn't have to go searching through forum after forum to find the links. It wouldn't be for vendors to post links to their hobby shops and such- although, I suppose there could be a separate resources section for that maybe in the market place forums.

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  Removable Micro hill for a micro layout
Posted by: Biased turkey - 01-01-2009, 11:58 AM - Forum: Scenery details - Replies (3)

I wanted to end the "CP/CN" (Canadian Pacific /Canadien National ) interchange lol on my ( 23" by 11" ) N scale micro layout with a small hill and a tunnel.
I built the microhill using slices of pink extruded styrene glued together with latex caulking.
I covered the hill with a thin coat of hydrocal
My 1st intention was to add some small rock casting, but the hill is so small that they would look out of proportion, then I decided to just paint some rough hydrocal spots to simulate the rocks.
I used Woodland Scenics slate gray wash for simulating rocks
I then painted the hill with some latex tan color and added the ground cover.

This is the result:
rear, bottom front and overall view


Jacques

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